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Re: Free the Icons

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Wasn't there a trend where kids were just wearing dead apple watches as accessories? It's just a status symbol, like gold bracelets.

I just graduated college and I’ve never heard of this. Can’t find anything about it online either. You can get a functional Apple Watch on Facebook for 50-100 bucks. So not much of a signal for status. We have much sillier, trendier accessories to choose from :)

Not every kid has 50-100 bucks avaiable.

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This comment is untethered from reality. Apple Silicon at present beats every single laptop on the market at CPU-bound workloads using a fraction of the power draw. Exceptions exist but usually those cases are break even or close calls. It trails GPU workflows on the high end but wins on the low end. It still wins on efficiency. It falls over on storage and RAM prices (well, for about 6 months it was competitive here…

> Apple Silicon at present beats every single laptop on the market at CPU-bound workloads [citation needed] > It is implausible that mass market products with mass adoption find their success solely on status. People still pay a massive premium for blood diamonds over physically indistinguishable lab diamonds. You underestimate how wildly irrational the market is when it comes to status perception.

Can you recommend me a non apple fanless laptop with similar power/battery life characteristics?

Re: Free the Icons

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While I wholeheartedly agree, I suspect the required backgrounds are to create a uniform format between system, where VisionOS requires round icons for more reliable eye tracking. It seems like every OS got a little harder to use in order to better vibe with VisionOS, the least popular platform they have. While I applaud the commitment to building a new platform, I don’t like that’s is coming at the expense of the ot…

VisionOS, at least as it stands today, will be dead before you know it. If you don't understand what I mean, look up the rumor about the future of Vision Pro.

What a waste of resource to invent the whole Tahoe "design language" only for nothing.

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it's market changed it started as a computer for professionals now its for people who want to look cool. so form is much more important than function, it's literally what you buy

I challenge you to find a laptop that can do what my macbook air m1 with 8gb of ram does at the $899 it was through the education store. No fan, awesome battery life, good trackpad and keyboard, the ability to not get hot while using it. I'm a senior platform engineer who at the time I bought it was a senior software developer, who can still use it for my daily tasks despite it having 8gb of ram. Until very recently…

A Framework isn't loud at all. I regularly do simulations on mine and it works perfectly without noise.

I think if you just compare cost then yes the Mac is a good deal but there is more than cost that matters. I think flexibility, reparibility and so on matter.

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Yeah, for a decade now it's been a UX disaster. It "works", because so many people are used to it, but look at a new user trying to navigate iOS, it's bonkers. Swiping from random directions achieves different things (and how would you even know you can?). The home button has like 11 different functions depending on how you press it and when.

That's what made me switch to Android. At least you can have 3-button navigation

I moved over from my old Android to an iPhone (needed to develop an iOS app for a freelance thing too) and that was the first thing that cause me off guard - it’s like controls that should be buttons of some kind were just omitted.

Re: Free the Icons

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Yeah, for a decade now it's been a UX disaster. It "works", because so many people are used to it, but look at a new user trying to navigate iOS, it's bonkers. Swiping from random directions achieves different things (and how would you even know you can?). The home button has like 11 different functions depending on how you press it and when.

That's what made me switch to Android. At least you can have 3-button navigation

Even thats slowly being depreciated for gestures as the default option. A bunch of Google's own apps won't play nice with it anymore on the flagship Pixel, drawing buttons underneath

Re: Free the Icons

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It's still a bit jarring to me to see how far Apple embraced form over function with iOS and subsequently macOS. I remember reading the Human Interface Guidelines from the late Mac OS 9/early Mac OS X days and being taken aback by the level of detail and thought that went into those interfaces. Don't get me wrong, some things made no sense (brushed metal was... a choice) but there was a certain level of polish that I…

Yeah, for a decade now it's been a UX disaster. It "works", because so many people are used to it, but look at a new user trying to navigate iOS, it's bonkers. Swiping from random directions achieves different things (and how would you even know you can?). The home button has like 11 different functions depending on how you press it and when.

> Swiping from random directions achieves different things (and how would you even know you can?)

Cultural context, the same way you'd know tapping on an icon opens an app.

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Or squirqle jail just on vision OS

Or squirgle jail on a transparent background instead of a grey one? Why would cursor collision with an image stop working because a new input method?

Maybe an animation which focuses the eye on the center of the icon?

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Haha yeah! Mac users just buy them to look cool while they write their whatever in the coffee shop! This is definitely not a preposterous and outdated observation/joke!

Wasn't there a trend where kids were just wearing dead apple watches as accessories? It's just a status symbol, like gold bracelets.

Yeah, and there are kids pooping in litterboxes in Texas schools! /s

I would never trust media covering youth trends. It's a bunch of 50yos whose teenager told them something as a joke and they took it seriously.

See also: latest millennial trend is avocado toast, and that's why they're all broke

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I challenge you to find a laptop that can do what my macbook air m1 with 8gb of ram does at the $899 it was through the education store. No fan, awesome battery life, good trackpad and keyboard, the ability to not get hot while using it. I'm a senior platform engineer who at the time I bought it was a senior software developer, who can still use it for my daily tasks despite it having 8gb of ram. Until very recently…

> $899 it was through the education store Comparing a subsidised computer for children to one that isn't isn't exactly a fair comparison, is it? > No fan, You know why Macbooks don't need a fan? It's because they aren't powerful enough to draw heat in the first place. A month ago, for the same price as a $1700 Macbook Pro (before the recent increase) I got a laptop with a CPU that is literally twice as fast on parell…

Apple education store isn't subsidized or "for children."
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