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European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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> Governments are cementing a monopoly they claim to oppose

Duopoly but yea. Because there is no third alternative. Microsoft failed/gave up with Windows Phone. The people trying to fix secure government services can't really tackle that issue, but the systems needs to be built now anyway.

Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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Regulations create monopolies. Even when regulations are aimed at curbing the control of giants, smaller players usually can't afford them and lose market share. This is actually taught as a competitive advantage strategy in business school. Corporations lobby the government to implement laws that seem to hurt them but in actuality create an uneven playing field where marketshare becomes available due to the higher implementation cost.

Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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I use coinpay’s DID it is simple anonymous and works it’s open source too

Yes, but you can't sign the device, that is what Google and Apple do.

From fingerprint/face id to digital id..

Like banking apps are now using play protect/depending on Google.

(Just a matter of time Google/Apple will be a banks themselves, as is the danger with governments)

Ofcourse the world could be a more open place, but constraint, rules and control are too pleasing to not implement, sadly.

Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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post #6

I use coinpay’s DID it is simple anonymous and works it’s open source too

Yes, but you can't sign the device, that is what Google and Apple do. From fingerprint/face id to digital id.. Like banking apps are now using play protect/depending on Google. (Just a matter of time Google/Apple will be a banks themselves, as is the danger with governments) Ofcourse the world could be a more open place, but constraint, rules and control are too pleasing to not implement, sadly.

The problem was always that the government could ban you from society via the banks banning you, and you having no recourse because it was a business exercising its right to not do business with you.

Without the proper laws and proper leaders of law enforcement that protect an individuals’ right to transact, one’s rights were always just a technological advance away from being taken away.

Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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post #4

A European digital ID system that is entirely dependent on 2 US companies. Wasn't there some talk about the pressing need for European digital sovereignty recently? Or was that just performative nonsense?

The US can call Austria in 5 minutes and with no burden of proof get the airspace permit for a head of sovereign state revoked and the plane swatted instantly upon landing, because someone might have been on board (he wasn’t) whose only real crime was embarrassing the USA by exposing their fundamentally unconstitutional lawbreaking.

Same goes with the prosecutors in Sweden; a phone call and the US got, not charges (as that would actually be official misconduct in Sweden), but enough of an official statement from a prosecutor to get the words “Assange” and “rape” in headlines together around the world by that evening.

European countries are, by and large, lapdogs of the USA. It’s sad. And then the US president turns around and stabs them in the back by threatening invasion and annexation, or complete disregard for the fundamental obligations of NATO members.

I really don’t know what the fuck the Europeans are thinking by playing the US’s stupid games. As we see time and time again, it won’t be repaid in kind.

Re: European digital ID wallets rely on safety services of Google and Apple

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post #3

> Governments are cementing a monopoly they claim to oppose Duopoly but yea. Because there is no third alternative. Microsoft failed/gave up with Windows Phone. The people trying to fix secure government services can't really tackle that issue, but the systems needs to be built now anyway.

> but the systems needs to be built now anyway.

I question that premise.

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