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US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
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#132Switching to EU companies is often the solution, but also we're in a tricky position in Europe since alternatives exist but can't compete with US. So finding European alternatives is possible but hard. Also EU is doing its job enforcing privacy and anti-competition laws but then American companies just say "feature not available in EU" (like Apple is doing more and more for example), making things even harder to swit…
the issue with EU companies is often the mindset: https://julien.danjou.info/blog/europes-cloud-problem-isnt-t... As tech worked who has worked in US FAANGs (still in europe)... the difference is immense. EU companies simply can't compete and will never be able to compete until they change the mindset. And the change must be pervasive, across all aspects (including IC compensation).
Oh boy, that server story is painful to read. That ain't universal across providers. I work at european data center and was a tech and the worst SLA is like next business day and even then if our hardware is at fault, you won't be waiting for the next day for us to start taking action on it. And if you have a feeling you're left in dark, you can even pick up the phone at middle of the night to call our support and either get some status or light some fire that will prioritize the process in the pipeline (well, to actually DO something other than cold reboot at night time you may need to purchase SLA that will require involvement of higher support level at nighttime/holiday)
There are some things that I'd like to be improved in technical support side, but we are way better in "human reachability", responsiveness and "blame game" point of view than US hyperscalers.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US supreme court is correcting the lies the American government made when they assured the EU and its citizens that they can be trusted with their data. It's not just the EU lying, both sides are awful at this. I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise. It makes sense, because banning EU companies from using AWS/GCP/etc. would bankrupt the EU into a recession, but the way they're…
> I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise We are too afraid of change and having to take responsibilities. Delegating to the US worked for decades, and it’s very hard to accept that we’ve done a mistake and need to take some risks ourselves. I feel it’s the same issue we have at European countries level. But also, the EU is still a patchwork of entities that do not have a common vis…
> the EU is still a patchwork of entities that do not have a common vision of what the future should be
For many, that's a feature, not a bug. The EU follows a democratic system consisting of many different countries with different types of government and different ideologies. It's not a unified federal government, as much as some people would like it to be.
The whole 28th regime concept seems extremely flawed to me. I understand the desire from a business perspective, but as a citizen I do not want a company to opt out of national legal protections and obligations by operating under some fantasy government. Unless this concept will be subject to the strongest, best-enforced regulations and tax rates equivalent to the highest tax rates within the Union, I do not want this project to happen, and I predict I'm far from the only one.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know where you are, and I'm not an expert, but a job requiring specific technology typically means it is your employer's responsibility to provide that technology. So if they signed a contract that mandates you have a smartphone, you can use your own if you like, but I think they are legally required to provide you with one if you choose not to buy one. In fact in most cases, I think they should prefer that (…
They might be a student, in which case the rules might be much less in their favor.
oh, of course. How did I not think of that!
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#135The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.
The EU should cut all ties with the US, tax US products and impose costly (and difficult to get) visas to American citizens wanting to visit. It won't do any of this because it has no balls and no vision. We're doomed and it's our fault.
No, we shouldn't act like (stupid) children. We should enact a transition based on what we can do and when. I know that nuanced and complex solutions to complex problems don't fire up voters anywhere, but that's the only way to not shoot our own feet.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#136The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.
The EU should cut all ties with the US, tax US products and impose costly (and difficult to get) visas to American citizens wanting to visit. It won't do any of this because it has no balls and no vision. We're doomed and it's our fault.
Why? You talk as if you've been victimized by America. I completely understand the desire for privacy and digital sovereignty, but you're talking about escalating into a full out economic war with the US. Meanwhile you personally patron American websites (such as this one) and services.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#137So the US Supreme Court is doing here more and better for EU citizens (!!!) than the EU commission and EU courts are. Because the EU officials constantly keep on lying to EU citizens how our data is safe in the USA, which it clearly is not, even aside from Trump's brown shirts, the ICE snipers that have already killed US citizens in shootings. The world is a very strange place, but one good thing is that Trump's crim…
The US supreme court is correcting the lies the American government made when they assured the EU and its citizens that they can be trusted with their data. It's not just the EU lying, both sides are awful at this. I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise. It makes sense, because banning EU companies from using AWS/GCP/etc. would bankrupt the EU into a recession, but the way they're…
> don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad
Because not trusting them is very expensive. But unfortunately, it's necessary.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#138Switching to EU companies is often the solution, but also we're in a tricky position in Europe since alternatives exist but can't compete with US. So finding European alternatives is possible but hard. Also EU is doing its job enforcing privacy and anti-competition laws but then American companies just say "feature not available in EU" (like Apple is doing more and more for example), making things even harder to swit…
the issue with EU companies is often the mindset: https://julien.danjou.info/blog/europes-cloud-problem-isnt-t... As tech worked who has worked in US FAANGs (still in europe)... the difference is immense. EU companies simply can't compete and will never be able to compete until they change the mindset. And the change must be pervasive, across all aspects (including IC compensation).
> The gap is the same “playing not to lose” instinct I wrote about with French tech: do the minimum, follow the procedure, don’t get blamed
Oof, Exhibit B: Arianespace.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US supreme court is correcting the lies the American government made when they assured the EU and its citizens that they can be trusted with their data. It's not just the EU lying, both sides are awful at this. I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise. It makes sense, because banning EU companies from using AWS/GCP/etc. would bankrupt the EU into a recession, but the way they're…
> I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise We are too afraid of change and having to take responsibilities. Delegating to the US worked for decades, and it’s very hard to accept that we’ve done a mistake and need to take some risks ourselves. I feel it’s the same issue we have at European countries level. But also, the EU is still a patchwork of entities that do not have a common vis…
> We are too afraid of change and having to take responsibilities
It's unclear whether Europe can continue to exist with its current social guarantees without American security guarantees. It isn't a matter of subsidy. Just scale. Building a parallel security establishment will leave America and Europe poorer. But Europe's cost will be its welfare state.
Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#140The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.
bans and limits just hurt consumers and freedom of speech. data regulation is useless as you said. what china actually did is a lot better.
they ignored decades worth of friedman inspired economic "theory" and started directly investing in their own industry. most successful chinese tech companies are a joint venture between state owned, municipal and private capital. you can get loans way under market rate if you have a good business plan in a industry the government is treating as a priority.
in america every time someone like obama or biden tried they got shut down by big money interests. any investment is bad because its "picking winners and losers". subsidies are bad because the only way to pay for them is increasing taxes and thats bad for profits. europe should never go down that path.