I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out
US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for engaging. People weaponizing the downvote here without good faith discussion is disappointing but expected on HN recently. It's OK, you can take my HN points. > The EU has a tremendous number of smart software engineers. Yes. > They're more than capable of recreating the US tech stack locally. No. Where are the dozens of European tech winners? Seriously. They have the best education system in the world, st…
> Where are the dozens of European tech winners? Seriously. They have the best education system in the world, strong social safety nets, cheap healthcare, and great lifestyles. Why have they not created innovative technologies that turn into worldbeating companies? This is a great question. I'm Australian, and I ask myself the same question constantly here in Aus. The engineers I graduated with in Sydney are easily a…
Agree with your assessments on culture and finance though.
Thanks for the comment.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obviously a caricature, but you must engage with the substance of the underlying issue. If you have watched the EU's approach to U.S. tech cos (DMA, DPA) you can see a trend of increased regulation; to where it's not worth sometimes to release apps on the App Store initially to the EU due to GDPR and DMA restrictions. Appreciate it if you take the technical bite out of the comment and engage in good faith here. The r…
> If you have watched the EU's approach to U.S. tech cos (DMA, DPA) you can see a trend of increased regulation Sure, no dispute here—I agree that in general, the EU has recently being making it more difficult for large American tech companies to do business in Europe. But I don't think that that applies at all in this specific case. The EU has already been sued twice over US–EU data-sharing agreements, and both time…
Got the effect shrug
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#35Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out
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Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers
#36Doing business with the US is just impossible these days. If this trend continues any further the US is gonna end up a piranha state with no allies and no business partners. I'm really not sure what consequences that'll have for the rest of the world, but it looks like we're about to find out
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#37EU needs to decide if it wants to do data processing or not. If it’s a yes, it needs datacenters and get a lot more energy. If no, it needs to transfer data to US for training/inferencing on it.
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#38The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.
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#39As a European citizen I do not trust entities located in the US to not abuse my private data ever since the patriot act. If it was me that deal would have never came to be. If some EU entity decides to use Microsoft 365 can Microsoft guarantee that it won't give access to one US government agency or another? It really can't. Because if that EU entity wants to act in accordance with EU law, this matters. This is what…
Who do you want to abuse your private data then? Some administration closer to home? It's well overdue to take seriously and put all our efforts behind the many (various but little known) local-first initiatives. See for instance: https://elfaconsortium.eu/ It's a race against time.
This is a very bad-faith question. If you want people to take you seriously, at least give them the respect of trying to argue with a strong, good-faith interpretation of what they're saying.
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#40The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.