> tampering with evidence in a terrorist-related crime that involved an officer shooting. Talk about an " emotional-based framing " meant to " radicalize the less-literate " ! For starters, terrorists attack civilians rather than de facto militaries. These are like the opposite of terrorists, however misguided we might think they are. Regardless of framing, the core argument here is that the contents of political pub…
Shooting a policeman is the "opposite of terrorists"? Nobody is going to agree with you on that, except Reddit-type people.
Unfortunately, the administration wants it both ways- if you were on the Capitol grounds on January 6, 2021, you were simply part of a "peaceful tour group". If you stand to the side of an ICE agent in Minneapolis, you are a "domestic terrorist", deserve to be murdered in cold blood, and any attempts to investigate further will be stonewalled. So it's hard to take their characterization seriously when they have demon…
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I don't know what they signal chats were, but ignoring those, only the last one of those I view as a crime. This is the US, people have second amendment rights and are allowed to possess guns and armed protestors have been a thing since forever. It is also a good idea to wear body armor when you are hanging around any US law enforcement or cops, doubly so when protesting them. Carrying a first aid kit is just a good idea in general, especially for something like a protest, and again for one where cops are likely to be shooting rubber bullets and tear gas canisters at people.
Up until now these crazy cases have been rejected by the courts. But this feels like a crack in the dam. A judge actually sentenced someone to 30 years for hiding zines, zines that had been published for years. This was under the pretense hiding those zines was hiding evidence of criminality. And the criminality was worth 75 years. For someone who was at a protest where a federal agent was shot, but was not the shoot…
All the best discussion of this is on sites that I wouldn’t want to link to on HN incase It puts me on a list in line for a 30 year prison sentence
Up until now these crazy cases have been rejected by the courts. But this feels like a crack in the dam. A judge actually sentenced someone to 30 years for hiding zines, zines that had been published for years. This was under the pretense hiding those zines was hiding evidence of criminality. And the criminality was worth 75 years. For someone who was at a protest where a federal agent was shot, but was not the shoot…
All the best discussion of this is on sites that I wouldn’t want to link to on HN incase It puts me on a list in line for a 30 year prison sentence
Will you look at that, the authoritarian suppression of opposition speech is already working!
> tampering with evidence in a terrorist-related crime that involved an officer shooting. Talk about an " emotional-based framing " meant to " radicalize the less-literate " ! For starters, terrorists attack civilians rather than de facto militaries. These are like the opposite of terrorists, however misguided we might think they are. Regardless of framing, the core argument here is that the contents of political pub…
Shooting a policeman is the "opposite of terrorists"? Nobody is going to agree with you on that, except Reddit-type people.
You started off bemoaning "emotional-based framing" and "populism", but now you don't want to accept that a word has a specific meaning beyond its popular emotional usage? Perhaps try being consistent.
"Lure police into an ambush" is quite a stretch. It's quite normal to do noise demonstrations outside jails/prisons to show solidarity with the captives, the captives will often times knock on the windows to communicate back. In fact there were noise demonstrations outside the Delaney Hall ICE jail in New Jersey just this month, which you may have heard about. The mischaracterization of fireworks as "explosives" is a…
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The cops actually shoot people in the face and you're afraid of some fireworks, while wearing full body armor? BS
Stop conflating two different unrelated events. It is nauseating.
These events were not unrelated. It's all part of the same conspiracy.
Nobody conspired to shoot a cop. People just happened to exert their First Amendment rights close to where it happened and got punished for speaking the wrong kind of speech.
From what I read, the person who was arrested for transporting zines was not even at the protest or part of the group - just the husband of one of the protestors.