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Post by jopolous »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #468
jopolous wrote: post #427

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I totally agree, it sounds unbelievable… Problem is, I’m on one of these core infrastructure teams, and for my team at least we lost between 50-75% of our engineers to the AI org. Most of the other infra teams I collaborate with have a similar story

Your team lost 50-75%? Is that an approximation, or do you just not know? Can't you just count who left to get the actual ratio?

Deliberately vague, half so I can’t be easily identified (though my team’s case is not unique), half so I don’t get in trouble for sharing specific personnel information.

True number is much closer to 75% than 50%.

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throwaway894345 wrote: post #649
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #648

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How can you take a job without knowing what the company does? Are we talking about Lumen or something? You don't need to work tens of thousands of jobs anyways, just 1 (maybe 2 or 3).

Jesus dude, I don’t want to wade through thousands of shitty companies to find the companies worth applying to.

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Post by gulugawa »

dwoldrich wrote: post #236
gulugawa wrote: post #213

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How do you decide to use useContext, useReducer, useState, or a third party management tool to manage state? (I know useContext isn't great for state management, but I've worked on a web application where useContext was used to store complex global state).

I'm not a fan of state management in React apps, and it took me a long time to come to peace with it. What I landed on that works with the system rather than against is useContext at the page level containing Jotai atoms that wrapper Immer-managed objects representing the page states that get passed through the component tree as props. I built my own action framework that gives me the ability to use Jotai getters to…

I tried using Jotai, and thought it was a great way to manage state. In contrast, useContext seems like an overcomplication with less control over rendering from state updates.

Is your action framework open source? I'd be interested in taking a look at it.

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Post by panzagl »

georgemcbay wrote: post #274
panzagl wrote: post #147

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I don't know what Cold Harbor means in a Meta context, but its interesting that its named after the battle that exemplified Grant's strategy of attrition during the American Civil War. I suspect it means waves of engineers ground down against the defenses of OpenAI/Anthropic in the hopes of eventually finding a crack. Might be best to get out while you can.

> I don't know what Cold Harbor means in a Meta context Cold Harbor is a reference to the TV show Severance. Without going into any real spoilers it was the code name of a data classification project so mysterious that the people working on it weren't allowed to know what they were working on (and yes, the project in the show was probably named after the battle in the Civil War). The Meta connection is that there are…

Thanks for the explanation. Meta indeed.
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