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Why not buy a second set of arms instead of legs or just a set a wheels?
I feel like if I write two paragraphs, nobody reads the second one...
South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
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Re: South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
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I feel like if I write two paragraphs, nobody reads the second one...
Maybe they're asking what your argument against buying a second set of arms is, rather than suggesting it as a solution?
I think the key is that none of our actual home use cases can be done with just arms. You don't need your folded clothes sitting in front of your washer and dryer, and a set of arms can't handle folding sheets.
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#63I wonder how Germany missed the semi manufacturing train? They had literally everything: universities, manufacturing culture, expertise and supporting supply chains, cash. I forgot, they also had ASML, freaking next door!
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It doesn't need to be at a consumer price point first, it needs to replace a human at an existing warehouse or manufacturing role first, and that's achievable in the next two years at this point. When you have arms that can reach into the dishwasher, you're also going to want them to put away your dishes. And so suddenly they need to get up high. And you're not going to have a SECOND set of arms at your washer/dryer…
Stair climbing systems that work using wheels exist. Google stair climbing wheelchairs for a few examples.
That solves the horizontal mobility problem. And then you have cabinets - and wheels don't solve the vertical mobility problem. So then you need a scissor lift on those wheels, or a hydraulic lift.
The robotics nerds always end up back at bipedal because it's vastly simpler once you're already solving arms.
Re: South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not buy a second set of arms instead of legs or just a set a wheels?
I feel like if I write two paragraphs, nobody reads the second one...
Re: South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
#66I wonder how Germany missed the semi manufacturing train? They had literally everything: universities, manufacturing culture, expertise and supporting supply chains, cash. I forgot, they also had ASML, freaking next door!
Re: South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe they're asking what your argument against buying a second set of arms is, rather than suggesting it as a solution?
Totally, and they ask why not wheels... I think the key is that none of our actual home use cases can be done with just arms. You don't need your folded clothes sitting in front of your washer and dryer, and a set of arms can't handle folding sheets.
Re: South Korea to spend $1T on more memory chip production and humanoid robots
#68I wonder how Germany missed the semi manufacturing train? They had literally everything: universities, manufacturing culture, expertise and supporting supply chains, cash. I forgot, they also had ASML, freaking next door!
Realistically, when it comes to the semiconductor market, there aren't many viable options outside of East Asia. I don't mean this in the sense that East Asians were somehow "chosen," but rather that the semiconductor industry inherently requires a large number of highly educated employees working together. The problem is that the working hours inevitably end up being very long. If you actually go work at one of thos…
When New Mexico and Germany had fabs, South Korea was still a developing country ruled by a brutal dictatorship.
What happened was simple - both Taiwan and South Korea and now China took concerted steps in investing into their semiconductors businesses. South Korea did this indirectly through favourable arrangements for the industry players via the chaebol system, while China and Taiwan did this with more direct government investment into the industry.
Sure, you can't just dump money into the industry and become a semiconductor player, else the Middle Eastern countries would have tried that ages ago. Yes, the talent being locally present is important but you're once again bringing up tired tropes about Asian working culture as being relevant.
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Totally, and they ask why not wheels... I think the key is that none of our actual home use cases can be done with just arms. You don't need your folded clothes sitting in front of your washer and dryer, and a set of arms can't handle folding sheets.
Why not? I would love to have a set of arms that could flip the laundry from the washer to the dryer and then take it out of the dryer and fold it and put it in the basket.
And then you want them to put away your dishes, and they can't, even though it's just a software update, because they're across the house. And they're BIG, so you don't have room to store two anyway.
And they were $20,000, so...