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A native graphical shell for SSH

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Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by zamadatix »

guhcampos wrote: post #82
gurjeet wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Sincerely, HN Guidelines Police :-) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I get it, but if the author of the article uses a biased and loaded language, I think it's fair game to do the same in the comments.

I don't think I've met many pairs of people I could ask "on a scale of 1 to 10, how biased/loaded do you think ${example} is" and get told the same exact number by both for the majority of the examples given.

Now apply that to the n people reading a given post or comment! If those commenters try to communicate on what they think is "fair game" for the given conversation, then two comments deep in and you might already be at a 7 when the author thought they were at a 3. In more extreme cases, two people could misunderstand each other through text and simply go from a 1 to a 7 in a single comment, spending the rest of the time shooting back loaded replies at each other instead of thinking about the topic together.

It's a very human reaction we all tend towards, even when we set out our intents to do the "always reply with..." mindset instead of a tit-for-tat one. That's why I always start with the ideal approach - I can count on myself to help foul it up :D.

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by em-bee »

frollogaston wrote: post #108
hughw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hired a programmer and after giving him his Linux laptop let him set up a few things. A couple hours later he asked me where he could get PuTTY for it, and I recognized a huge gap in my interview coverage.

Gotta auto-reject anyone listing Windows experience on resume

works for me. are you hiring? :-)

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by ranger_danger »

wasmperson wrote: post #110
mrcslws wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can SSH to a machine, you can use Outer Loop and Outer Shell, without having to do any sudo commands or expose anything new to the network. The browser + SSH client combined into a single app leads to nice user experiences like this. The final section of the post was saying that it's strange such a thing doesn't exist already. FYI I made the same ActiveX connection here in the closing of the FAQ in the previou…

> without having to do any sudo commands or expose anything new to the network. Again I'm not understanding the distinction. I don't need to run sudo commands to install a web server, and depending on your definition of "exposing something new" to the network then either I don't have to do that either or your solution also does that. Something is getting downloaded and run on the remote machine, correct? Why is it pr…

> it requires exposing a port to the internet or using some SSH port forwarding tool

I think what they meant is that the SSH server can be behind your webserver and not have to have its own public IP exposed directly... but of course there are an abundance of proxy-related solutions already.

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by petee »

syntheticnature wrote: post #76
hughw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hired a programmer and after giving him his Linux laptop let him set up a few things. A couple hours later he asked me where he could get PuTTY for it, and I recognized a huge gap in my interview coverage.

Indeed, a new hire should be able to use Google to find https://puttygen.com/download-putty#Download_PuTTY_on_Linux_... in short order evil grin

https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

puttygen.com looks super fishy, the disclaimer:

> Puttygen software is not created, nor supported by Puttygen.com. The program has been tested and is believed to be safe. [...] The use of Puttygen through Puttygen.com is done at your own discretion and risk

Edit: or is that the evil grin?

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by tway235 »

hatradiowigwam wrote: post #51

This appears to me like a solution in search of a problem, like many others before it...the quote below seems relevant to this effort. "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." ~Henry Spencer

this kind of dismissive comments is why many apps have an awful usability. If someone thinks a web interface would be easier than a text terminal, there's at least one customer in need for a product (which either doesn't exist or they could not "googlify") - it's also why I welcome AI generating apps on the fly, "replacing" engineers who "know better" ;)

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by achille »

This is amazing! Most definitely headed in the right direction. The separation layer between front and back must be cut at the smallest possible 'slice'.

Lots of people here snarking would understand if they 'felt' the latency and additional overhead. Not enough thought has been put in carfully slicing the data for individual use cases.

I'd go even further, in his demo of 'generating load by moving the config often' -- I think that 'top' app should have 'jit-ed' more of the rendering on the client such that the only information traversing piclient is compresed delta's of the ps hose.

Re: A native graphical shell for SSH

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Post by glitchc »

syntheticnature wrote: post #76
hughw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hired a programmer and after giving him his Linux laptop let him set up a few things. A couple hours later he asked me where he could get PuTTY for it, and I recognized a huge gap in my interview coverage.

Indeed, a new hire should be able to use Google to find https://puttygen.com/download-putty#Download_PuTTY_on_Linux_... in short order evil grin

apt install putty seems... useful? Don't get it.
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