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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Why are leftists so histrionic? If we had a thread made every time an executive espoused far left opinions we'd overload the HN servers. Why is an executive being far right even news?

Because their puppeteers know exactly what buttons to push when they need a good smear campaign. (And because lumpens despise the pro-labor left.)

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Love all the Godwinning in this thread, it just shows normal people how ridiculous it all is.

(By the way: I doubt most privacy advocates care much about this. Those of us who travel in the underground are used to running into not-so-great people, many of whom seem to do way worse things than donating to political parties! But feel free to expend more resources on your campaign.)

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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To be fair, Örebropartiet can also be called an extreme left party. It’s complicated… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party

Does it matter if they are left or right? The point is, they want to round up lawful citizens and turf them out of the country because they have the audacity to be slightly foreign, or worse born to someone foreign. that is the issue, not how much tax/spend big/little government.

Most people agree that immigration over X% amount is undesirable.

Many governments ignored people's will for many years.

Some new political parties want to fix that, is reasonable enough.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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mullvad's mistake was to respond. it's all universally performative, the only reason it elicits reactions (1000+ comments here) when the view of a megacorp don't is because people anticipate the ability to elicit a response from a smaller company like mullvad.

rule number one: ignore any and all political controversies, don't respond in any way. deviation is nearly always punished. unless it's part of some PR campaign with a side-risk of backfire.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the relationship between race and immigration status? It's not entirely clear what the argument which unites them is supposed to be. This unification is always in the mind of the white matry not the person opposing immigration. In the UK polish immigration was opposed, en mass, poles are white. SUPPOSE there are large numbers of poorly assimilated people in a country, whose culture of origin is very different…

> The refusal to treat large scale immigration as a cultural and economic phenomneon > and insult opponents of this position as racist On the other hand, you treat the negative effects of current immigrant milieus as eternal and innert to their ancestry (dare to say: genes). This way, you can look at integration as if it has to happen in a single generation and also, allows you to ignore the more important part of di…

> hand, you treat the negative effects of current immigrant milieus as eternal amd innert to their ancestry (dare to say: genes).

I don't think they did say any of this. I don't understand why people who debate against limiting immigration (and it often is only this way round) continually mis-represent the person's clear, stated concern and try and replace it. It is a completely transparent attempt, and no one is fooled. This isn't 2015 when an accusation of racism was taken seriously, because who would mis-accuse someone of such an awful thing? Well, it turned out millions of people would do that. The US President would do it[0].

As for the genetics comment, this is ridiculous on its face as well. Race and culture are in no way tied. But culture survives for many generations, particularly when the immigrating group is large enough. This is obvious. Germans in the 1900s could move almost anywhere in the world and become the best brewers in the region, not because they have the genotype of a brewer, but because they had (and still have) an incredible brewing tradition handed down from parent to child. Culture doesn't change because you move into another country. It moves because you assimilate, make lots of native friends, and learn the language. Lots and lots of people are not doing that.

[0] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouses-mothe...

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the relationship between race and immigration status? It's not entirely clear what the argument which unites them is supposed to be. This unification is always in the mind of the white matry not the person opposing immigration. In the UK polish immigration was opposed, en mass, poles are white. SUPPOSE there are large numbers of poorly assimilated people in a country, whose culture of origin is very different…

> The refusal to treat large scale immigration as a cultural and economic phenomneon > and insult opponents of this position as racist On the other hand, you treat the negative effects of current immigrant milieus as eternal and innert to their ancestry (dare to say: genes). This way, you can look at integration as if it has to happen in a single generation and also, allows you to ignore the more important part of di…

> cultural and economic phenomenon

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

I'm pretty familiar with these right-wingers that claim to fight for "freedom of speech" they all end up fighting for "freedom of speech for the things I want to say, jail for those who oppose me." The 2024-2025 swing was pretty extreme on that front. Political extremists are all the same, left or right, nobody should be surprised because they seek power above all else. I had been pretty concerned about the level of…

Do you think any of the people publicly claiming that they will no longer do business with Mullvad because Daniel Berntsson donates to an anti-immigration political party, wouldn't make donating to that party an illegal, jail-able legal offense if they had the political power to do so?

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> far-right free-market anarchist There's no such thing as rightwing anarchism. In the entire history of anarchism, it's always been a strictly and explicitly leftwing movement.

I know what type of anarchism you are referring to, spray paint a circled A, live in a farm, free love anarchy. but what about free market capitalism, anarcho capitalism, the austrian economic school, the chicago boys, Milton Friedman, Javier Milei..

Other forms of anarchism are not real anarchism, because he said so.

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This "far right" slur on any party that is anti immigration makes me immediately suspect this party probably isn't far right. It's a shame, because real racist extremists/nazis benefit from this lumping together of legitimate concern about immigration and actual Nazis.

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> Being anti-immigration in a country that is shrinking is just stupid.

No, it's not.

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