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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Interesting for a European party to choose red and black as colors and be right of center.

i can think of one notable right-of-center European party that featured those colors heavily.

Fair enough. (And white)

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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If alternatives exist some of us are willing to make changes to not support the worst of the worst when their behavior is revealed. I used to like Musk, now I see Tesla and am disgusted. Maybe he was always like this but the personal line for me was the salutes. I’m sure many others have lines as well.

How do you know the political party of the story is "the worst of the worst"? You don't.

I don’t know anything about this tbh I was just answering your general question through my own lens. When someone does something newsworthy and I read about, I adjust, depending on my ethics and whether they align. In general I don’t seem to align with the far right since that mostly seems to be about Supremacy and exclusion and hate. I don’t have interest in those things so I move my support away from things like that.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

A right to say something is not the same as the right to say (and do) something without being called out on it. He has the right to do what he’s doing. Other people have the right to react and say “That sucks, it’s against my values, I no longer trust you or want to do business with you.”

but if Mullvad did that to you, you would (rightly) be angry. Hence the irony.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

Interesting for a European party to choose red and black as colors and be right of center.

It's not an accident.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, Daniel and I own 50% each. > obviously Berntsson has every right to his opinions and to express them Indeed. > and I also appreciate that someone can have control over an opinionated company and run it for one particular set of reasons but not for other causes that someone believes in That is exactly the case. > but in the end I just don't want my money supporting anti-people causes. As i…

I would like to add one note: if I were an activist in Iran, or in any other way my livelihood would depend on strong privacy services, I might keep using your service and even be (slightly) more certain of the company's resolve to keep my privacy protected. Although I would be very aware of the irony. But choosing for one's own safety can override other concerns. Very few things in life are black and white.

Indeed. What I hear you saying is that you recognize there is a kind of consistency, and benefit, to Mullvad's position.

I'll admit holding the line like this, when most people don't understand the nuance, and most of those who do don't value it, is irrational from a business perspective. Then again we founded the company because of our political convictions about free speech, free press, privacy, mass surveillance and censorship.

I respect your choice to leave, and also appreciate that we're both making an effort to understand each other. I wish all disagreements were like this.

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I understand Mullvad has historically been a leader in privacy among the big VPN options. What are some other equally affordable and user friendly options that you all have been satisfied with? Think for someone who saw Mullvad advertised during the Super Bowl but looking to leave because of this news.

What is the general consensus on NordVPN? They are frequent sponsors on youtube but I haven't heard much substantial about them either way.

I think they're relying on the fact that "Nord" sounds like "Nordic", so consumers think "they must be a Swedish company, I hear some Swedish techies are hardcore on freedom, e.g. the PirateBay is Swedish!".

In reality they're based in Panama, and their parent company is Dutch: https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/19441152966161...

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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This "far right" slur on any party that is anti immigration makes me immediately suspect this party probably isn't far right. It's a shame, because real racist extremists/nazis benefit from this lumping together of legitimate concern about immigration and actual Nazis.

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What if the focus of their pro-remigration stance is families deemed impossible to integrate due to their persisting criminal activities and rejection of functional societal norms? Because that's the exact demographic this one policy of that party is concerned with.
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