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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by microgpt »

TheSmoke wrote: post #631
dsign wrote: post #483

Slightly tangential on Swedish society, there are similarities between USA and Sweden. There's a large segment of society that is white and very blond, and there's a largish segment which is not. Along that same line there are all kinds of divisions: economic, education, religious, sets of values, and of access to things and possibilities. What pisses me off is that the cast of "CEOs of successful companies" live in…

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If it's a nice country, you should expect people to want to go there.

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Post by Aachen »

drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

I suppose how extreme a party seems to a person depends on the context they're in

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Post by iAMkenough »

yaris wrote: post #210

I try to turn it other way in my head, like if Mullvad got to know somehow political views of some of their customers and say "We don't like what you say, so we decide to end our business with you. We don't want our infra to be used to spread opinions like yours."

When it comes to publishing anti-human, genocidal rhetoric, I hope they would say "we don't want your blood money."

Flipping that back around, I'm glad I'm not a Mullvad customer that would say "I'm okay with a portion of the money I give you being used to call for genocide."

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Post by dtj1123 »

hootz wrote: post #189
stefanfisk wrote: post #160

To be fair, Örebropartiet can also be called an extreme left party. It’s complicated… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party

I don't see how, given their answers to simple questions as described in the "2026 run up to the elections" section, this party could ever be considered a leftist party.

Maybe the issue is that mapping political ideologies onto a 1-D line doesn't work if you have more than two distinct ideologies.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

kfreds wrote: post #688
insane_dreamer wrote: post #660

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you said makes sense, but what the founders do matters. I'll never buy a Tesla car because of Elon's actions. I cancelled my Amazon Prime subscription because of Bezos' actions. There are plenty of people for whom it doesn't matter, but for some it does.

Indeed. It matters to me. In fact, most of my political opinions have atrophied, or rather I have self-censored. Daniel believes that is not the right trade-off to make in this case. I understand his point of view, and disagree.

And to be sure, I agree Daniel is entitled to his opinions and the right to do with his money as he pleases. Of course there may be business consequences for doing so in terms of how the user base reacts.

I think the bigger problem -- and I don't know the rules for political donations in Sweden -- is that any individual is able to pour millions into a political party of any persuasion. In the US this situation is made much worse since a Supreme Court ruling known as Citizens United which opened the floodgates for the ultra-wealthy to bankroll politicians. But that's another discussion altogether.

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Post by microgpt »

khriss wrote: post #657
cassianoleal wrote: post #323

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I've been quite satisfied with AirVPN [0]. [0] https://airvpn.org/

+1 on AirVPN. They are amongst the handful of companies which successfully resisted the war on torrenting (targeting VPNs that allowed persistent ports) and still allow for port reservation. Mullvad, like most other VPNs gave in in the end and removed port reservations.

I wonder how AirVPN doesn't run out of ports since you reserve a static port number across all nodes (which is also a fingerprint). They seem to be almost all allocated. Do they just plan to never have more than 64512 customers?

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Post by kruxigt »

earthnail wrote: post #674
dsign wrote: post #483

Slightly tangential on Swedish society, there are similarities between USA and Sweden. There's a large segment of society that is white and very blond, and there's a largish segment which is not. Along that same line there are all kinds of divisions: economic, education, religious, sets of values, and of access to things and possibilities. What pisses me off is that the cast of "CEOs of successful companies" live in…

I lived in Stockholm for seven years. One of the biggest mistakes was not buying a boat. They‘re not as expensive as people make you believe; you can get a really nice day cruiser for around $10k, which you can sell again for $9k after a few years. Used boats have very little depreciation. Yes, you can go fancier; a nice weekender like a Nimbus 250 sets you back $60-70k, but that’s just like cars. You can get an Audi…

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Post by naturalmovement »

dang wrote: post #545
sph wrote: post #540

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post linked has been removed, so I don't know what more we can speculate upon, 650+ comments in. It's strange to see HN mods allow this much attention to a political, and contentious issue.

What has been removed? The links I saw didn't have much information but as far as I can tell they're still up. From an HN point of view the idea is to give the discussion a place, since the community obviously wants to have it.

> From an HN point of view the idea is to give the discussion a place, since the community obviously wants to have it

So where do you draw the line?

Just this week I saw multiple offtopic Epstein schizoposts by 10+ year old accounts that were alternately flagged and vouched. Should we allow that too?

My takeaway is this is a highly politically charged rant on a niche social media site — exactly the kind of discussion we're meant to avoid.

Things are rotten below ground and you give an inch, they'll want a mile.

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