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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by onraglanroad »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #379
drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

"The party has also been described as both right-wing populist and left-wing populist as well as left-conservative." Well that clears things up

Fascists always incude left wing policies to try to appeal to the "working man".

There's a reason the Nazis included "socialist" in their name. It's not because they give a crap about the plebs.

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Post by jasonvorhe »

mrhottakes wrote: post #334
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

I don't see him saying he doesn't want people to look into that. What I see is an explanation for why he thinks the company is better for having a multitude of views and opinions on their staff, a correction of some lazy reporting in the media and stated tolerance for people who no longer want to use said company's products for perceived value incompatibility (which he also seems to disagree with though).

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Post by Auracle »

nitnelave wrote: post #368
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot the odd one out: > Some of its key issues include lowered wages for politicians, ending the tax payer funding of various sculptures, monuments and art, large scale remigration, a stricter immigration policy, and free dental care.

For context, from wiki: > Remigration is a far-right concept referring to ethnic cleansing via mass deportation of non-white minority populations [...] to their place of racial ancestry

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by ReptileMan »

nitnelave wrote: post #368
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot the odd one out: > Some of its key issues include lowered wages for politicians, ending the tax payer funding of various sculptures, monuments and art, large scale remigration, a stricter immigration policy, and free dental care.

For context, from wiki: > Remigration is a far-right concept referring to ethnic cleansing via mass deportation of non-white minority populations [...] to their place of racial ancestry

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by guerrilla »

drbscl wrote: post #395
guerrilla wrote: post #374

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> Nationalist, sure. That's pretty far-right by itself. The fact that they want mass deportations should solidify it for you though.

It's definitely possible to be a left-wing nationalist

I mean it's definitely possible to call yourself that, but I'd argue no, it's not possible to actually be that.

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Post by anuramat »

everfrustrated wrote: post #497
alexseman wrote: post #333

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Thanks Fredrik, will actually be switching to Mullvad.

Indeed I see this as a positive. There is a common meme that the CIA might well run VPN companies. It would seem less likely for Mullvad.

> less likely

how so?

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Post by pipes »

This "far right" slur on any party that is anti immigration makes me immediately suspect this party probably isn't far right.

It's a shame, because real racist extremists/nazis benefit from this lumping together of legitimate concern about immigration and actual Nazis.

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Post by jasonvorhe »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #477
myrmidon wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An honest question: Would you like to live in a world where company/employer exerts more control over the views that are publicly expressed? Do you actually want voting to happen via wallet? This whole view kinda confounds me. I don't see how you can honestly profess to be on the tolerant/right side, morally, while trying to boycott someones business over his political views. Would you have preferred early feminists…

> An honest question: Would you like to live in a world where company/employer exerts more control over the views that are publicly expressed? I don't really object to you asking this question, but I do object to you calling a rhetorical question "an honest question".

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by znpy »

panarky wrote: post #398
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

yeah i'm sick and tired of hearing this, because it gets applied very asymmetrically.

we routinely tolerate certain kinds of intolerants and silence other, and that sucks.

case in point: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-mi...

people happily tolerate lgbt-intollerant people, afraid of being called islamophobic and/or intollerant, and but we do not tollerate at all people that have been calling that risk out for years.

so yeah, popper's writings are being grossly misused, and i'm sick and tired of seeing that come out in every discussion on these topics.

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Also: if only mullvad is taking that kind of political stance (no-log vpn etc)... maybe you should think twice about who is actually on your side.

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