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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by MarkusQ »

fastball wrote: post #457
panarky wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> When you make a large donation to a political party whose most fundamental policy is restricting the free expression of people Where can I read more about how this is the fundamental policy of the Örebro party?

So far as I can tell, the main source of this claim is the comment you are responding to, and similar.

I think the real issue is this: "The party is heavily opposed to political corruption and high politician incomes and wants to reduce the wages of politicians and senior officials." (from Wikipedia, among other sources.)

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Post by ambicapter »

armchairhacker wrote: post #453
panarky wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> restricting the free expression of people I don’t support remigration, but calling immigration “the free expression of people” is a stretch. It’s orthogonal. You can argue that remigration isn’t protecting the privacy of those who are surveilled by the government or deported to repressive countries that surveil their population. But Mullvad’s product protects even those people (it must, because it hides the identit…

The words "immigration" or "remigration" do not appear in the comment you are replying to. That's wholly your own construction.

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Post by srik »

duncangh wrote: post #485

Why doesn’t Apple just make a built in iOS native vpn that can be toggled (effectively) from the swipe down menu control and is paid monthly or part of iCloud

I doubt they’ll go beyond the currently bundled Safari iCloud Private Relay, which I quite appreciate actually.

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Post by onraglanroad »

drbscl wrote: post #395
guerrilla wrote: post #374

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> Nationalist, sure. That's pretty far-right by itself. The fact that they want mass deportations should solidify it for you though.

It's definitely possible to be a left-wing nationalist

No-one defines what they mean by "nationalist" so it could apply to a rock.

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Post by Auracle »

yreg wrote: post #419
drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

>Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. To me too, then I got to the leaders quote on TV: "We must deport these damn parasites who sit and live at our expense." Yeah, okay. I know some politicians who speak like that, I feel I get the picture.

I think you'd be surprised at how quickly that sentiment has moved from the far-right to close to the center. People are (rightly, in my opinion) pretty upset at their governments for letting mass migration happen with pretty much only downsides for their actual citizens. People are all about the idea of helping the downtrodden when it's just an ideal, but when they realize it's having negative consequences for them that can easily change.

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Post by albedoa »

mrhottakes wrote: post #335
gray_-_wolf wrote: post #194

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Yes, I check whether my local bakery is run by people with hateful politics.

In fact, the politics of my local bakery are among the easiest to be aware of! These people are telling on themselves.

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Post by wtrwqyw »

panarky wrote: post #398
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

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So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> restricting the free expression of people,

Is it? They appear to be some sort of hardcore pseudo libertarians with some nationalistic vibes. To an extent that seems to overlap with Mullvad’s declared value?

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Post by VortexLain »

srik wrote: post #503
duncangh wrote: post #485

Why doesn’t Apple just make a built in iOS native vpn that can be toggled (effectively) from the swipe down menu control and is paid monthly or part of iCloud

I doubt they’ll go beyond the currently bundled Safari iCloud Private Relay, which I quite appreciate actually.

And which they disable in any country with significant internet censorship, where having a VPN actually matters.

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Post by WhitneyLand »

kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Fredrik, while acknowledging everything you said, the fact remains some of my money can end up empowering politics I find repugnant.

If it were a small amount of money, it wouldn’t be an issue. If the politics at stake were less important, it wouldn’t be an issue.

They’re not going to stop at immigration, look at other places in the world to see the future risk.

Sorry, I was a paying and satisfied customer, and now I’m out.

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Post by carlosjobim »

devindotcom wrote: post #400
nomel wrote: post #388

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"It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission."

Why do you think that quote supports your argument?
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