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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by mellosouls »

dreambuffer wrote: post #349
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Why does it say your comment was made 2 days ago, when the thread has only been up for 6 hours?

It's a HN thing, not down to the commenter. Sometimes threads are reactivated if the mods think a low profile discussion is worth a second chance or boost. The submission time doesn't always reflect the original submission. Sometimes it's due to a comment move or thread merge.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by yw3410 »

lukewarm707 wrote: post #157

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Okay - but that doesn't mean I'm not going to weigh up what you say when I'm choosing a business to support; especially if it's not in a professional context.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by pesus »

addedGone wrote: post #376
al_borland wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s called voting with your wallet. People in America do this, and are told to do this, all the time. What would you like them to do? Roll over on the co-CEO and throw him under the bus, signaling to everyone that there is a “correct” point of view to have that Mullvad as a company is going to push and promote? Individuals should be allowed to think and do what they want as an individual, as long as it isn’t comprom…

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by drbscl »

guerrilla wrote: post #374
drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

> Nationalist, sure. That's pretty far-right by itself. The fact that they want mass deportations should solidify it for you though.

It's definitely possible to be a left-wing nationalist

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by antonvs »

dreambuffer wrote: post #349
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Why does it say your comment was made 2 days ago, when the thread has only been up for 6 hours?

PR companies have found that getting ahead of controversies is useful, so they invented time travel.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by al_borland »

daneel_w wrote: post #315

To the people using Mullvad I have two sincere and unpopular questions: do you actively scrutinize and examine the key people of every service and product you use, or is it just a reflexive change of footing whenever you happen upon news like this? Also, do you really switch , or is it just a heat of moment kind of thing and an opportunity to profess yourself?

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Post by panarky »

mrhottakes wrote: post #334
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ...

Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

>> the same way that someone's opinions on animal rights, taxes or public healthcare ...

We're not talking about reasonable people disagreeing about tax policy, we're talking about free expression, the entire purpose of Mullvad.

When you make a large donation to a political party whose most fundamental policy is restricting the free expression of people, that is wholly incompatible with everything Mullvad says they stand for.

When a founder and executive with influence over Mullvad policy and operations is exposed actively and financially support restricting free expression of people, it's not "tolerant" to pretend that's somehow compatible with the mission and brand of the company.

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Post by well_ackshually »

al_borland wrote: post #378
a34729t wrote: post #357

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People who engage in these antics would quickly find that there isn’t a single company where all the employees align with all their values. They would then either need to accept their hypocrisy or reject society completely to live in the forest somewhere.

Revealing that capital is catastrophically misallocated to people whose deep desires are to inflict suffering on others? Oh no, please don't do it, that would be terrible. We could almost figure out a solution to this capital problem. Maybe something involving a common ownership and a sense of class.

The one time HN is accelerationist in the right one. Be proud, comrade, you're making the world better even if you don't know it

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by devindotcom »

nomel wrote: post #388
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

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"It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission."
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