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Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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I am curious about the power grid situation in Europe. Assume the rate of AC usage was as high as the US (or god forbid Japan), how far behind is the grid infrastructure from where it needs to be?

ERCOT (Texas) has daily swings of up to 50 gigawatts of power in the summer. I am pretty sure it is the most volatile US grid in terms of the demand side. A lot of the transmission infrastructure is purpose built for this exact problem.

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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Solar panels + cooling + heating heat pump is the most logical combination as we are past the point of no return on global warming.

And there's no need to be like the Americans that cool down to 18°C when the outside is > 35°C: simply decreasing the indoor temperature to saner numbers like 26°C is enough, it's summer after all. Less energy usage and it is enough for the body to be happy.

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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I don't understand this article. Europe is usually not this hot, hence lack of AC in many places. Floods and earthquakes are also uncommon, hence the buildings in most places are not up to code against, say, Japanese standards.

How many old people need to die in heatwaves before you accept that the climate is changing?

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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I don't understand this article. Europe is usually not this hot, hence lack of AC in many places. Floods and earthquakes are also uncommon, hence the buildings in most places are not up to code against, say, Japanese standards.

An American decided to be smug because Europe suddenly passed the threshold where aircon went from a nice to have to a necessity.

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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post #4

Solar panels + cooling + heating heat pump is the most logical combination as we are past the point of no return on global warming. And there's no need to be like the Americans that cool down to 18°C when the outside is > 35°C: simply decreasing the indoor temperature to saner numbers like 26°C is enough, it's summer after all. Less energy usage and it is enough for the body to be happy.

+ it lowers humidity and moves air.

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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I’m sorry to hear about your very odd friends, but I suggest you consider traveling more yourself and gather some personal insights of the world. You should very quickly come to realize that Europe is not one place, one kind of people. This isn’t really something one would say, having spent even just a minute in one or two places here that aren’t Germany or France. Odd to read that.

Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane

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I don't understand this article. Europe is usually not this hot, hence lack of AC in many places. Floods and earthquakes are also uncommon, hence the buildings in most places are not up to code against, say, Japanese standards.

AC is far more efficient than most heating methods, but there isn't the same level of censure applied to traditional heating technologies. If you listen, people talk about AC like it's inherently polluting, like it's something to moralize.

Europe historically has not been this hot, but they regularly have heat waves. I remember a 40C heat wave more than a decade ago! That's enough time to add emergency infrastructure, unless you're hoping to snuff old people. When you get your third hundred year flood in a decade it's time to update your priors.

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