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The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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Re: The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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To be clear, while there is _specific_ language around DEI/gender identity, the actual language of parts of this goes far, far further, and essentially codifies giving political appointees explicit discretion over what gets funded and what conferences scientists with government funds can go to, and disallows any government money to go towards publishing research.

Re: The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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The picture of the flag being dissolved in acid is ... perhaps not the best way to convince the government to change course ...

Citizens in a free society do not temper their criticisms for fear that "the government" might get mad about them. Donald Trump's science policy is destroying one of the key components of American power, and if he doesn't like people posting evocative images about that he'll have to get over it.

Re: The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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The picture of the flag being dissolved in acid is ... perhaps not the best way to convince the government to change course ...

Yes this is the exact opposite of the message conveyed in the article. Terrible graphic and communication for an important topic

Re: The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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The picture of the flag being dissolved in acid is ... perhaps not the best way to convince the government to change course ...

Citizens in a free society do not temper their criticisms for fear that "the government" might get mad about them. Donald Trump's science policy is destroying one of the key components of American power, and if he doesn't like people posting evocative images about that he'll have to get over it.

The evocative image is of science destroying America, which is not the point the article is making.

Re: The war against 'woke' could end US science as we know it

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post #2

To be clear, while there is _specific_ language around DEI/gender identity, the actual language of parts of this goes far, far further, and essentially codifies giving political appointees explicit discretion over what gets funded and what conferences scientists with government funds can go to, and disallows any government money to go towards publishing research.

> and essentially codifies giving political appointees explicit discretion over what gets funded

I approve of this. The people who make the funding decisions should be politically accountable. If you have a mental model of unappointed civil servants as detached, neutral, non-political entities, I can understand why you wouldn't. But I see them as just people, and I don't know anybody like that. I'd like the folks who make bad choices with tax dollars to be votable out of office along with their boss, rather than protected from accountability by layers of boards, laws and unions.

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