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How would that software stop you from Just googling things on your phone at the same time?
all our exams are in-person.
Professor denounces mass AI fraud on an exam at Brown
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I'm currently getting my Bachelor's in Computer Science, while in-person is absolutely necessary, it doesn't necessarily need to be hand-written. We now have the exam questions printed out, and we respond on the online exam platform, just like we would before. It is explicitly stated that no aids, including AI, are permitted. There's usually the prof and at least one more TA walking around the room, if anyone is seen…
In 2024, we had some coding exams, and AI was explicitly NOT forbidden, which lead to them making the exam more difficult (because with AI, you can solve it so much more quickly, so gotta make it harder), which was really annoying, because it made it practically impossible to solve it yourself because of the time crunch. I hope they realized how wrong that was. There should be at least one class, probably more, that…
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After retiring at 65 from a university teaching and research science career (all pre-AI), I went back to teaching, but this time teaching high school science, mostly AP STEM courses at an A-ranked public high school. The cheating/AI problem is now a crisis greater than COVID. My experience: very few students in advanced and AP classes do not cheat — largely for the reasons given above — and it takes enormous resource…
My daughter just finished her Grade 11 finals in Canada. They were done on locked down school Chromebooks, which should be enough to prevent cheating by all but the most dedicated.
Re: Professor denounces mass AI fraud on an exam at Brown
#594Re: Professor denounces mass AI fraud on an exam at Brown
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In 2024, we had some coding exams, and AI was explicitly NOT forbidden, which lead to them making the exam more difficult (because with AI, you can solve it so much more quickly, so gotta make it harder), which was really annoying, because it made it practically impossible to solve it yourself because of the time crunch. I hope they realized how wrong that was. There should be at least one class, probably more, that…
Of course, but the same way, you need to learn to use your head before using a pocket calculator.
(So I fully agree with your point, but I think your example is not strong enough)
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If augmented reality glasses advance to the point where you can’t easily tell from a distance, then make the students hand them over for a close inspection. If we get to the point where even that doesn’t work then we’ll be at the point where a camera in the room with an AI analyzing eye movements should be able to detect it. And no matter how advanced they get they’ll still need to radiate heat, so a thermal camera s…
> If augmented reality glasses advance to the point where you can’t easily tell from a distance, then make the students hand them over for a close inspection. We had a 'fix' for this back when they checked your TI83. It's a 2 line basic program to display "MEMORY CLEAR" the exact same way as if somebody had spent the time to find the actual memory clear function in the settings.
Also I was in high school in the prime time for this hack and I never saw someone actually use it despite the stories.
Re: Professor denounces mass AI fraud on an exam at Brown
#597As a university professor, I honestly don't understand the point of grading. Who will look at and care about grades? Likely company HR. But then why should we (professors) do the screening for companies for free? Also, grades have long been inflated to a point we might as well just give everyone an A and let companies figure out how to select people.
Wow. Do you care at all about the reputation of your university? I worked briefly in post-secondary CS education a long time ago, before academia turned into the ideological warzone it is today, and if I said such a thing, I would've probably lost my job. Also, grades have long been inflated Then stop inflating them. This is also what standardised testing is good for --- but no surprise, so many are against it becaus…
> before academia turned into the ideological warzone it is today
with this:
> and if I said such a thing, I would've probably lost my job
Weren't universities supposed to be exactly the kind of place where unorthodox ideas could be freely said out loud? To fire an educator for saying the wrong opinion about education doesn't make your university sound like the great place you suggest it was.
Education reform, including changing or ending grading, should totally be the kind of thing that people can safely discuss.
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Of course, but the same way, you need to learn to use your head before using a pocket calculator.
I think this isn't quite the right example - a pocket calculator does not need you to verify its output. It is better to be able to calculate, but if you can't seems much less a issue then using a AI without being able to do whatever you asked of it (So I fully agree with your point, but I think your example is not strong enough)
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It's an old enough tradition that there are jokes that rely on you knowing the tradition. My favorite: professor known for being VERY strict tells class repeatedly in weeks leading up to exam, "You will have exactly two hours to finish your exam, and no more. I will not accept exam booklets turned in even one minute past the two hour mark: they will score a zero. Be warned." Exam day comes, and all but one student ar…
Not to ruin the joke, but he knows and can remember the student's face so I don't think that student can get away with it.