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Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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I still don't get where all that memory goes.

Neither do the developers, because until recently, RAM was so cheap it didn’t matter, and we were in a situation where almost no one ever needed to consider “how much RAM will this take?” when writing code.

More than code they write, the framework and runtime they use.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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With respect... I am surprised such a low-quality analysis is published on stanford.edu . What is compared here? What is the purpose of this? What are the conclusions of the analysis? Heck, where is the analysis? By what logic are the prices per GB(!) comparable between 1960(!) and 2026?

I am sorry to being rude, I just don't understand this publishing beyond getting the media exposure.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> adjusting those 1960-1980 prices for inflation would make the graph a lot taller. It won't though. One dollar in 1960 is just about ten dollars today. The graph is already in logarithmic scale so it won't make much difference.

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You got it backwards; ending the gold standard was very much a unilateral decision by the United States because Nixon couldn't handle making politically unpopular decisions to cut spending and/or end the Vietnam war. Many countries that had their gold reserves held via US dollars were livid.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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The memory manufacturers have made an interesting mistake. The tech giants of the world will be working to replace them from the supply chain as soon as possible. China already makes it's own RAM albeit at 16nm but you can bet they are working to get down to 4nm.

DRAM hit a barrier at 10 nm a few years ago[0], so 16 nm is actually even closer to state-of-the-art. E.g. Micron newest node (1-γ) is their sixth at 10 nm [1] and their first EUV-based node.

The problem is that DRAM is fundamentally based on storing charge in a capacitor and how much charge a capacitor can store is a result of the geometry of the capacitor. So either someone will have to figure out a way to make the same size capacitor take up less space on the RAM chip (this is what broke the previous 20 nm barrier) or someone will have to invent a practical way of making RAM with less than 1 capacitor per bit.

0: https://semiengineering.com/dram-scaling-challenges-grow/

1: https://www.techpowerup.com/333111/micron-announces-shipment...

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

#145

With respect... I am surprised such a low-quality analysis is published on stanford.edu . What is compared here? What is the purpose of this? What are the conclusions of the analysis? Heck, where is the analysis? By what logic are the prices per GB(!) comparable between 1960(!) and 2026? I am sorry to being rude, I just don't understand this publishing beyond getting the media exposure.

Likely your expectations are mismatched because this is just data and not an analysis.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

#146

With respect... I am surprised such a low-quality analysis is published on stanford.edu . What is compared here? What is the purpose of this? What are the conclusions of the analysis? Heck, where is the analysis? By what logic are the prices per GB(!) comparable between 1960(!) and 2026? I am sorry to being rude, I just don't understand this publishing beyond getting the media exposure.

Let f(t) be the price of RAM per GB from 1960 to 2026. Let F(t) be the price of RAM per byte in the same period.

At every point in time t, f(t) is the price per 1 GB of RAM which is 1GB/1B times the price per byte of RAM.

Because 1GB/1B is non-zero, it follows that f(t)=1GB/1B F(t).

It also follows that ratios are preserved, ie

f(t1)/f(t2)= 1GB/1B F(t1)/F(t2)

As long as f(t2) is non-zero, which in this context is never the case.

Visually, the two graphs are the same except scale is different.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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The log scale is nice to compare decades. Wether it's inflation-adjusted or not isn't too important but it's still a factor of 10, which would show in a linear recent graph. The fact that we're comparing GBs instead of the average RAM stick shows how much the price has decreased per GB rather than per unit (much smaller decrease).

But a linear graph that represents only the last decade and where the bottom is 0 (not the min value) would tell a different story, but I guess we already know that story because we're living it.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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It's amazing how consistently thr lower memory cost have expanded the set of economic viable applications : cheaper hardware doesn't just improve existing software it also enables software that was not possible before

>it also enables software that was not possible before

Which is not always a good thing.

Re: Historical memory prices 1960-2026

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> adjusting those 1960-1980 prices for inflation would make the graph a lot taller. It won't though. One dollar in 1960 is just about ten dollars today. The graph is already in logarithmic scale so it won't make much difference.

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Well, there's an arguable point of fiscal policy there, and a conspiracy rathole that no one wants to excavate.

But none of that matters here. As grandparent comment indicates, you're making a pretty fundamental math error. This is a log chart. Government may have devalued currency. It did not do so exponentially.

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