Systemd resistance is silly to me. Systemd is what is turning Linux into a viable modern OS. You need something to tie all the parts of the OS together with a unified API, otherwise you'll be fighting fragmentation constantly. I don't like the age verification thing either, but all systemd did was add a field for it, it's still up to your distro to use it.
Fragmentation is what makes Linux great imo. I'm not against systemd per se but I am against monoculture.
Replacing Systemd with OpenRC in Debian
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Re: Replacing Systemd with OpenRC in Debian
#42I only know how to control Linux through systemctl, and I don't know much beyond that. It seems like the components are different, but I'd appreciate it if someone could explain it to me.
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#43In other means consider me an average Joe of the Linux world.
Hence this question: If it sucks so much, why did it become so widespread?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fragmentation is what makes Linux great imo. I'm not against systemd per se but I am against monoculture.
And what are your thoughts on deploying software to a fragmented system?
What I have an issue with is apps making themselves dependent on systemd like KDE is doing. https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1qi9vo5/comment/o0pzvq...
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#47Just install devuan?
Re: Replacing Systemd with OpenRC in Debian
#48I mainly use Ubuntu, so I know about systemd, but what is OpenRC? Why is there such a split, and why are people arguing about it in the comments? Could someone kindly explain it to me? I only know how to control Linux through systemctl, and I don't know much beyond that. It seems like the components are different, but I'd appreciate it if someone could explain it to me.
Re: Replacing Systemd with OpenRC in Debian
#49Tbh, the installer was inevitable after systemd integrated a bootloader, crafted a paritioning scheme for autodiscovery, took over user and home directory management, and topped it off with an updater and "system extensions" layering system that some immutable distros are using. I'm not saying any of this is particularly bad but it's been very clear fot a while that systemd just wants to be an OS. With immutable syst…
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Re: Replacing Systemd with OpenRC in Debian
#50I can't wrap my head around it, since those 3 are a "you" problem, systemd is just a service manager it's you who decide to use other systemd parts.