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GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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It reads like an ad. Secondly these are "just" IDORs, arguably the easiest class of vulnerabilities. Thirdly it compares to GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. No, we don't have Mythos at home.

In my experience, GLM 5.2 is extremely good at finding vulnerabilities, and more importantly, unlike Opus, I've never seen it refuse a command. It genuinely is a very strong model for finding and fixing vulnerabilities.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>GLM export controls incoming? US imposing export restrictions on a model from China?

While unlikely , it is not without precedent , there are restrictions on ASML a Dutch company to sell EUV machines

ASML complies as an ally, why would China comply?

The weights are already available and downloaded, is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Constitutional rights still exist (I hope)

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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> beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks

Beats which model in Claude? Whenever a "benchmark" doesn't put precise model numbers in their headlines I am immediately skeptical. Either they don't know the difference (bad) or they are benchmarking against weaker models (misleading, also bad).

It's like when studies say "AI is bad at X" and they used GPT-3.5 in current year.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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These numbers are seem pretty low compared to what I was able to achieve specifically around windows kernel, win32kwin32u to be exact. It honestly wouldn't surprise me anymore if china started surpassing models that US makes public, at least in specific categories such as cyber.

GLM 5.2 is already capable enough to assist in self-training which is similar to what we saw happen with frontier models and they appear to be getting there at a significantly lower cost than openai/anthropic.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While unlikely , it is not without precedent , there are restrictions on ASML a Dutch company to sell EUV machines

ASML complies as an ally, why would China comply? The weights are already available and downloaded, is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Constitutional rights still exist (I hope)

> is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available?

Now you're getting it! Commerce will call it a munition and those harboring it as harboring illegal/foreign munitions.

No business will take the hit, so they will quickly deplatform the models.

No end user has the GPU capacity to use GLM 5.2 or similar models at full precision so the government will call the problem "mostly solved." But they might choose to "make examples" out of a few people using p2p software to download the weights if they choose to.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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GLM export controls incoming? I predict Commerce will force OpenRouter, HuggingFace to take some open models down within the next few months. Not that it would make any sense.

>GLM export controls incoming? US imposing export restrictions on a model from China?

It’d be restrictions on Americans and American companies, and probably also pressure on America’s allies.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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> beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks Beats which model in Claude? Whenever a "benchmark" doesn't put precise model numbers in their headlines I am immediately skeptical. Either they don't know the difference (bad) or they are benchmarking against weaker models (misleading, also bad). It's like when studies say "AI is bad at X" and they used GPT-3.5 in current year.

Opus 4.8 according to TFA. Whether or not the safety guardrails were responsible for the difference is an open question but for a dev who wants to secure their software who doesn’t work at one of the blessed Glasswing companies it doesn’t really matter why, it matters what the best tool you actually have is.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ASML complies as an ally, why would China comply? The weights are already available and downloaded, is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Constitutional rights still exist (I hope)

> is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Now you're getting it! Commerce will call it a munition and those harboring it as harboring illegal/foreign munitions. No business will take the hit, so they will quickly deplatform the models. No end user has the GPU capacity to use GLM 5.2 or similar models at full precision so the government will call the problem "mostly solved." But they mig…

Or we use the models to work on fixing vulns and stop over-blowing the doom scenarios. Gotta save the kids and kill the terrorists though!

I'm for making software better instead of banning it based on what the rich and powerful claim.

I suspect the real fear is that open weight models undermine the financials and token prices they thought were going to pay off their ludicrous spending because they have all raced and raised hardware prices.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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GLM export controls incoming? I predict Commerce will force OpenRouter, HuggingFace to take some open models down within the next few months. Not that it would make any sense.

If that happens it'll be an absolute disaster. Imagine a scenario where Anthropic and OpenAI prohibit most US companies from using their latest models because of safety.. And meanwhile attackers use equivalent open source models to attack US companies.

Any prohibition on open source models will do nothing to fix the problem.. since attackers will never feel bound to the law. All advanced models must be available for defensive purposes.

Re: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our benchmarks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Now you're getting it! Commerce will call it a munition and those harboring it as harboring illegal/foreign munitions. No business will take the hit, so they will quickly deplatform the models. No end user has the GPU capacity to use GLM 5.2 or similar models at full precision so the government will call the problem "mostly solved." But they mig…

Or we use the models to work on fixing vulns and stop over-blowing the doom scenarios. Gotta save the kids and kill the terrorists though! I'm for making software better instead of banning it based on what the rich and powerful claim. I suspect the real fear is that open weight models undermine the financials and token prices they thought were going to pay off their ludicrous spending because they have all raced and…

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