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Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by DamonHD »

microgpt wrote: post #8
DamonHD wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very much want my (open sourced) code to be used by anyone who wants to use it, in any context, including commercial, and with Apache I also want the patent protection effects. Using such an inflammatory term to refer to someone's non-preferred style of licence is unhelpful to reasonable debate.

Why do you want that? The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. Some people enjoy watching their partners have sex with others - and they're aware that they do. If a developer enjoys aiding Google and Amazon without getting paid or even recognized, they have the right to do so. But if they're tricked into it, that's a problem.

It's my (open source) code and I want to make it widely available, ie as open as reasonably possible, including cases such as my past small start-ups with no budget and not able to release everything open source. Why do I have to justify or explain that "why"?

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

DamonHD wrote: post #11
microgpt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want that? The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. Some people enjoy watching their partners have sex with others - and they're aware that they do. If a developer enjoys aiding Google and Amazon without getting paid or even recognized, they have the right to do so. But if they're tricked into it, that's a problem.

It's my (open source) code and I want to make it widely available, ie as open as reasonably possible, including cases such as my past small start-ups with no budget and not able to release everything open source. Why do I have to justify or explain that "why"?

I'm just wondering why you want that as it can shed more light on the debate.

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
microgpt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want that? The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. Some people enjoy watching their partners have sex with others - and they're aware that they do. If a developer enjoys aiding Google and Amazon without getting paid or even recognized, they have the right to do so. But if they're tricked into it, that's a problem.

> The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. You cannot detach it from the a) contemporary usage of the term and b) the original post uses "cuck" very intentionally to evoke said contemporary usage.

It's okay to be a cuck and own it. It's only embarrassing to be a cuck when you're trying not to be a cuck. And of course also to the extent that telling anyone your fetish is automatically embarrassing.

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by DamonHD »

microgpt wrote: post #13
DamonHD wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's my (open source) code and I want to make it widely available, ie as open as reasonably possible, including cases such as my past small start-ups with no budget and not able to release everything open source. Why do I have to justify or explain that "why"?

I'm just wondering why you want that as it can shed more light on the debate.

I just gave an example: not all potential users of code can either use GPL-ish code or are profit-driven megacorps such as Google; false dichotomies are false. There are many small or intermediate organisations (and individuals) who would like to use open source code with the fewest legal and admin complications possible. I supported a similar cohort with an early multimedia site with simple free licensing.

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

DamonHD wrote: post #15
microgpt wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just wondering why you want that as it can shed more light on the debate.

I just gave an example: not all potential users of code can either use GPL-ish code or are profit-driven megacorps such as Google; false dichotomies are false. There are many small or intermediate organisations (and individuals) who would like to use open source code with the fewest legal and admin complications possible. I supported a similar cohort with an early multimedia site with simple free licensing.

So your singular aim is to maximize users?

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by DamonHD »

microgpt wrote: post #16
DamonHD wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just gave an example: not all potential users of code can either use GPL-ish code or are profit-driven megacorps such as Google; false dichotomies are false. There are many small or intermediate organisations (and individuals) who would like to use open source code with the fewest legal and admin complications possible. I supported a similar cohort with an early multimedia site with simple free licensing.

So your singular aim is to maximize users?

Availability to use, without adding other complications, is a key aim. I'm trying to maximise to other people whatever value there is in the work that I've done.

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

wasting_time wrote: post #6

The GPL isn't strict enough now that everyone has a copyright laundering machine at their disposal. I've been experimenting with adding a "translation" clause in accordance with the GPL paragraph 7, where if by means of automatically translating the project to a different language (by transpiling or machine learning) the license is retained, but not necessarily the copyright. So far I'm not happy with the results by…

If copyright isn't retained you have absolutely no rights relating to copyright. You can't make someone do something by writing a line in a contract they don't have to follow.

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

DamonHD wrote: post #17
microgpt wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your singular aim is to maximize users?

Availability to use, without adding other complications, is a key aim. I'm trying to maximise to other people whatever value there is in the work that I've done.

Do you believe that everyone being locked into a proprietary Amazon version of your code delivers more value than either: Amazon releases the source code to their version, or: lock-in hasn't occurred yet but people are free to add those same features in a free version?

Isn't there ultimately more value in Amazon releasing the source code for its update than in Amazon not releasing that?

Re: Why I use the GPL and not cuck licenses

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Post by microgpt »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #12

Don’t think my opinion has changed much since the last time this was posted on HN… https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46624402

Since the comment you linked to blatantly violates guidelines but is too old to moderate, I'm flagging this one instead.
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