Michigan bill would bar employers from requiring after-hours coms with workers

Post by nkrisc » Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 5:21 PM UTC

tassadarforaiur wrote: post #38

SoftTalker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you draw the line? If the employer wants you to install a 2FA app on your phone, do you demand a separate phone or alternate 2FA device for that and mark yourself as a troublemaker? Or do you just do what 99.8% of the staff does and install the app?

One of the biggest banks in the US forces staff and contractors alike to install a proprietary 2fa app on their personal devices. if you can get a company phone, you can't finish activating the MDM, to install the company 2fa app, without first using that 2fa app on your personal device. Even a company yubikey can't be activated without the 2fa appp, which again, you can't get on a company device without first instal…

Post by swiftcoder » Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 5:27 PM UTC

theptip wrote: post #33

This seems mostly good for restaurants, some concerns I had from the title seem to be handled reasonably. It’s not preventing “can anyone cover Saturday” messages in a group chat. Just the case where shift changes are made and workers are _required_ to work outside their contracted hours. Seems this would fit with what good food service employers do, would put pressure on the more abusive fast food chains. Maybe the…

Post by connicpu » Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 5:33 PM UTC

theptip wrote: post #33

This seems mostly good for restaurants, some concerns I had from the title seem to be handled reasonably. It’s not preventing “can anyone cover Saturday” messages in a group chat. Just the case where shift changes are made and workers are _required_ to work outside their contracted hours. Seems this would fit with what good food service employers do, would put pressure on the more abusive fast food chains. Maybe the…

Post by tbrownaw » Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 5:49 PM UTC

roughly wrote: post #58

There's a weird incuriosity in the responses here for a place that calls itself Hacker News. "This doesn't happen to me" is about the least interesting or useful response you could have to someone telling you something happens to them. Someone is telling you the world works differently for them than it does for you, which means you've got an opportunity to learn something new about the world and expand your model. Ev…

Post by darth_avocado » Sun, Jun 28, 2026, 5:56 PM UTC

tbrownaw wrote: post #67

roughly wrote: post #58

There's a weird incuriosity in the responses here for a place that calls itself Hacker News. "This doesn't happen to me" is about the least interesting or useful response you could have to someone telling you something happens to them. Someone is telling you the world works differently for them than it does for you, which means you've got an opportunity to learn something new about the world and expand your model. Ev…

> Someone is telling you the world works differently for them than it does for you, which means you've got an opportunity to learn something new about the world and expand your model. ...than it does for you, which means there's an opportunity for someone to expend resources verifying and characterizing the claimed difference.