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Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you allow me a bit of pedantry, it's infinite "for all intents and purposes". It doesn't mean you can request civilizational levels of compute, but for a blog, a crud, an ETL and such, that is regular use cases with sensible scale you can absorb any elastic demand. Having said that, I agree with you. You have to request limit increases often and can't scale even in those instances if you don't plan ahead.

Yeah but you don't need cloud for a blog. Cloud was sold as effectively infinite resources - capacity isn't infinite, or effectively infinite, it's 20% more than you are currently using and you pay 300% more for that. There has to be a name for this deceptive marketing tactic where you say something is unlimited and then it is only unlimited as long as you don't use very much. It would be one thing if you occasionall…

A blog for your product, if your product is already on the cloud, is a very sensible use case for the cloud. Static one deployed to a bucket and a CDN, fast, cache on the edge, high availability.

The tiny blog sure isn't for the cloud, but also it's not the main client of the cloud.

> it's 20% more than you are currently using and you pay 300% more for that.

I'm assuming you are comparing to self hosting. Then you need to account for things that are difficult to put a price like your time maintaining a physical infrastructure and the lessons you will learn with it.

Sounds like I'm defending the big cloud, but there is a valid use that is disconsidered because it's trendy to hate on the cloud.

> They confine you to a relatively small amount of resources the entire time you have an account. If you want more you have to request it.

It's a form of KYC, nothing wrong with that.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Image/video understanding still quite cost effective from the Gemini flash series models?

Image generation and veo models I’d imagine quite effective for creators; new Instagram accounts with AI content that are garnering millions of followers in spans of weeks are quite common now

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Misleading title on HN but an interesting article, a reminder of why the hyper scalers are investing heavily in infrastructure. That said, I expect much of the AI bubble to pop. Google Gemini with Antigravity is a good product, as is a Claude Code subscription but I have switched to using DeepSeek v4 Pro with the Claude Code harness and DeepSeek v4 Flash with the OpenCode harness (when I am not using local models wit…

I am a huge fan of Google Gemini, but Antigravity is not a good product. Just recently I've had issues with:

* Repeated instances of incorrect code insertion that the agent cannot clean up. Sure, version control, but this is often happening in new files that aren't even in version control yet.

* Lost chat history when I close and restart the app.

* Not being able to restore a chat from the history (just saw this last week).

* Overly broad searches that waste time and tokens.

* No vertical scroll bar arrows. WTF?? Doesn't the interface look "flat" enough already? This feels arbitrary and stupid.

* The previous chat prompt takes up a large portion of the vertical space of the chat window, even on a high res display.

When it works Antigravity is excellent. When it doesn't work, it's absolutely horrible. If you check the update history, there are usually just a few items and they're super generic things like "Fixed a bug with text entry.".

I don't see it improving at any kind of reasonable pace, even over the last 6 months As a result, I've mostly relegated Antigravity to a planning tool and it does an excellent job. Or I use it to write prompts that I give to Codex. It definitely can do an excellent job writing code sometimes, but sometimes it also does an absolutely horrible job with not breaking the code when it inserts it. It seems to be terrible at understanding C++ braces. How often? Way too often. I always know it's happening because it prompts me to run Git while it's doing something. LOL, that's how I know that it's broken something.

Codex is definitely way, way, way better. It's not even a contest at this point. Codex never breaks my code. It might not always do what I want, but it's just an order of magnitude better than Antigravity. Antigravity really feels like a comedy of errors at this point. ESPECIALLY from a company with Google's resources.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These kind of limits happen all the time for big clients. Cloud services like to present the illusion of an infinite amount of compute available at a fixed price per unit, but the reality is if you try to use too much of any service you'll find you have a quota and requests to increase it will fall on deaf ears if the provider doesn't have more of that resource. Too much of my working life has been spent shoehorning…

If you allow me a bit of pedantry, it's infinite "for all intents and purposes". It doesn't mean you can request civilizational levels of compute, but for a blog, a crud, an ETL and such, that is regular use cases with sensible scale you can absorb any elastic demand. Having said that, I agree with you. You have to request limit increases often and can't scale even in those instances if you don't plan ahead.

definitionally that's "for some intents and purposes" my man

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Facebook does seem to be falling behind. Does anyone here use Llama over more recent options for any technical reasons?

Facebook is ethically challenged and that's putting it very very very mildly. Yes, they have unlimited money, but at a certain point, it comes across like a rich dude at a bar telling a beautiful woman that he'll buy her a diamond bracelet if she will just come over to his place right now. They make my skin crawl.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Must be to classify/moderate images for social media. They're pretty good at that. I can't imagine what else you'd want to use Gemini models for, certainly not coding.

I've criticized Antigravity in this same conversation, but Google Gemini is good at coding. Even Flash 3.5 low is good at coding. The problem is that Google isn't hungry anymore and it really really really shows in how much they've botched everything to do with Antigravity.
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