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The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by grvbck »

q3k wrote: post #3
quibono wrote: post #2

I believe the fact that Polish uses the Latin alphabet (with a small Slavic twist to express the extra sounds) meant it was much easier for Poland to align itself westward. I think the average Pole is much closer culturally to the Western neighbours than to a Ukrainian or Russian (maybe apart from cuisine).

Polish cuisine is very similar to German cuisine. (This comment will make a lot of Polish people very upset.)

Sure, a common use of bread, potatoes, cabbage/other vegetables, hearty meat dishes etc but the Polish kitchen is closer to Ukrainian/Russian in technique/ingredients.

Barszcz, pierogi, fermented everything, pickles, sour rye, and many dishes built around wheat/rye, mushrooms, dairy, and Eastern-style fillings are much more like Ukrainian/Belarusian/Russian food.

The biggest German influences are probably the sausages and the beer culture.

Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by CurtHagenlocher »

q3k wrote: post #3
quibono wrote: post #2

I believe the fact that Polish uses the Latin alphabet (with a small Slavic twist to express the extra sounds) meant it was much easier for Poland to align itself westward. I think the average Pole is much closer culturally to the Western neighbours than to a Ukrainian or Russian (maybe apart from cuisine).

Polish cuisine is very similar to German cuisine. (This comment will make a lot of Polish people very upset.)

How reasonably can German cuisine be described as a single unified thing? My mother was from East Prussia and my father from Swabia and their "home" cuisines were pretty dissimilar -- if for no other reason than climate.

Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by tau255 »

q3k wrote: post #3
quibono wrote: post #2

I believe the fact that Polish uses the Latin alphabet (with a small Slavic twist to express the extra sounds) meant it was much easier for Poland to align itself westward. I think the average Pole is much closer culturally to the Western neighbours than to a Ukrainian or Russian (maybe apart from cuisine).

Polish cuisine is very similar to German cuisine. (This comment will make a lot of Polish people very upset.)

Due to Partitions of Poland a lot of of territory was under Prussian influence for over a century - that had to have some culinary effect (other than forced germanization).

Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by StefanBatory »

paweladamczuk wrote: post #16

It's just like the new Copilot 365. Every time I try to type "Ć", Copilot pops up. I have to close the app constantly.

Best part is that it installs itself automatically, without prompting me for that.

Thank you Microsoft; nice to see your QA works well.

Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by keiferski »

quibono wrote: post #2

I believe the fact that Polish uses the Latin alphabet (with a small Slavic twist to express the extra sounds) meant it was much easier for Poland to align itself westward. I think the average Pole is much closer culturally to the Western neighbours than to a Ukrainian or Russian (maybe apart from cuisine).

The adoption of the Latin alphabet was itself a move to align itself westward, with kingdoms in the Latin world, not the Byzantine one, and tied to adopting Catholicism rather than Orthodoxy.

Re: The curious case of the disappearing Polish S (2015)

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Post by notathrowaway51 »

Fun fact: when treated with unicode Normalization Form Canonical Decomposition, 8 out of 9 polish letters (ż,ó,ć,ę,ś,ą,ź,ń) break down into base letter + combining diacritical mark, but ł stays intact. That means you can't use sqlite's unicode61 remove_diacritics tokenizer to normalize polish text for FTS.
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