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Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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This seems to be a bit of a misleading headline.

In the current climate limiting someone's use of AI might be expected to be about restricting access or restricting what someone can do with it, but the story here ostensibly seems to be about capacity constraints, not any limitation on what models or capabilities Google is giving Meta access to.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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I do believe this will be the norm from now on to get access to top frontier model. Computing capacity plus state restrictions plus KYC will be imposed to organisations to get access, individuals will be served last on the queue with degraded performance. Once the Chinese models catch up, nobody (at least individuals) will turn back again to frontier labs.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Facebook does seem to be falling behind. Does anyone here use Llama over more recent options for any technical reasons?

if you use this as a rough gauge: https://openrouter.ai/models?order=top-weekly

Llama Meta 70b is 50th or so down the list of popular models.

It has 24.1b tokens used in 7 days vs the top models that have trillions or hundreds of billions of tokens.

So practically dead!

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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This seems to be a bit of a misleading headline. In the current climate limiting someone's use of AI might be expected to be about restricting access or restricting what someone can do with it, but the story here ostensibly seems to be about capacity constraints, not any limitation on what models or capabilities Google is giving Meta access to.

These kind of limits happen all the time for big clients.

Cloud services like to present the illusion of an infinite amount of compute available at a fixed price per unit, but the reality is if you try to use too much of any service you'll find you have a quota and requests to increase it will fall on deaf ears if the provider doesn't have more of that resource.

Too much of my working life has been spent shoehorning services into less space/compute/ram/spindles or migrations to other data centers to solve such issues.

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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It's interesting that Meta is heavily using Google's models (as opposed to Anthropic or OpenAI) given that they are not SOTA for coding. I wonder if this for some strategic/competitive reason, or maybe for cost saving?

Google tends to be very good at vision and smaller/ edge

Re: Google limits Meta's use of its Gemini AI models

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Facebook does seem to be falling behind. Does anyone here use Llama over more recent options for any technical reasons?

Meta's latest model is Spark Muse and not available outside of its products.

https://ai.meta.com/blog/introducing-muse-spark-msl/

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