If you waited until today to get terrified... Then I guess you're one of today's unlucky 10,000. Congratulations, or something.
Feds Killed Polestar and Spared Volvo
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#12It’s because the Polestar cars have a lot more electronic surveillance than the Volvo models, which have had only minor tweaks and have mostly not been updated for years.
Correction: it is because a major Republican donor wants Chinese cars banned, because they beat the living shit out of his offerings on quality and value.
It is silly to credulously pretend that the excuse about Chinese software has even a whiff of legitimacy.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of those are Chinese-owned, as far as I can tell. Polestar is predominantly Chinese-owned. Federal Connected Car Rules instituted a ban on the company selling cars in the United States.
All of them are Chinese owned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely . Geely, Polestar, Volvo, Zeekr, Smart, Lotus. All the same group
Did you mean to reply to a different comment?
I don't see any of those on the mozillafoundation page, per @andsoitis.
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#15Probably the stupid politician behind it didn't get the memo that Volvo is no longer a swedish company?
I think it's half this and half that Volvo is still a recognizable brand that Americans grew up with. My mother had a Volvo when I was seven. People would react if Volvo was banned. Polestar? What's that?
But Geely can throw down the gauntlet by building Polestars and relabeling them Volvos.
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Our cheap exports: competitive, free markets maximizing efficiency and delivering value to consumers
Their cheap exports: sinister pump and dump
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#17What makes a car ‘made in China’ (therefore over 100% tariffs) vs ‘assembled in the USA’ (therefore no tariffs)?
The battery, engine and everything else is absolutely Chinese made. I don’t know how much assembly there is honestly but i feel the Geely, err i mean Polestar was a little close to that line.
I will say the laws around this indicate just how ridiculous tariffs can be. There’s always some line to press up against and honestly if electric motors, batteries, car bodies and wheels from china have different tariffs to a car as a whole it’s always going to lead to china shipping those parts in an easy to bolt together way to ‘make a car’.
Re: Feds Killed Polestar and Spared Volvo
#18It’s because the Polestar cars have a lot more electronic surveillance than the Volvo models, which have had only minor tweaks and have mostly not been updated for years.
Correction: it is because a major Republican donor wants Chinese cars banned, because they beat the living shit out of his offerings on quality and value. It is silly to credulously pretend that the excuse about Chinese software has even a whiff of legitimacy.
It's hard to parse this without concluding that you are perhaps unaware that Volvo is Chinese.
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#19The feds also controlling who has access to AI models. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48692995 It's all just this lawless personal fealty shit.
It would be better if the AI censorship was lawless, rather than authorized by the Arms Export Control Act of 1976, since that would allow the Article III branch of the federal government to be a defense against it. The lawfulness makes it worse.
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#20the main point to me here is that such decisions should be fully public including all the input info and all the reasoning that is behind the decision, similar to a court case. Instead we have that guessing game.