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Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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That is weird article. Suburban zone nobody really cares about exists in some places therefore Europeans should make it big polarized political issue on the assumption that any suburban zone is the reason of all issues.

But like, did that polarized angry rhetorics actually solved the American issue?

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

#5
Funny how everything worked pretty well, zoning restrictions and all, until public policy shifted towards papering over population decline with mass migration. An immigrant needs a house _today_, a baby needs their own separate housing unit in roughly 20 years. One approach towards population growth flattens the housing demand curve considerably, and it's not the one we're pursuing any longer. That's what's changed.

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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post #2

The issues around zoning are not comparable. For one, here in the Netherlands we have plenty of density and not a lot of missing-middle, but still a giant shortage. The problem here was never zoning, it was a lack of building.

What causes the lack of building?

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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post #2

The issues around zoning are not comparable. For one, here in the Netherlands we have plenty of density and not a lot of missing-middle, but still a giant shortage. The problem here was never zoning, it was a lack of building.

> problem here was never zoning, it was a lack of building

Why isn’t the latter an effect of the former? I believe the Netherlands restricts building height by parcel unless a deviation procedure is granted, something I understand to be expensive and risky.

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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post #5

Funny how everything worked pretty well, zoning restrictions and all, until public policy shifted towards papering over population decline with mass migration. An immigrant needs a house _today_, a baby needs their own separate housing unit in roughly 20 years. One approach towards population growth flattens the housing demand curve considerably, and it's not the one we're pursuing any longer. That's what's changed.

You’re going to be downvoted to heck.

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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post #4

That is weird article. Suburban zone nobody really cares about exists in some places therefore Europeans should make it big polarized political issue on the assumption that any suburban zone is the reason of all issues. But like, did that polarized angry rhetorics actually solved the American issue?

> did that polarized angry rhetorics actually solved the American issue?

The issue was already polarized by the NIMBY’s. They just had a political monopoly. Pro-growth policies have resulted in new housing and abated price increases in several American cities.

Re: Should European housing politics be Americanized?

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post #5

Funny how everything worked pretty well, zoning restrictions and all, until public policy shifted towards papering over population decline with mass migration. An immigrant needs a house _today_, a baby needs their own separate housing unit in roughly 20 years. One approach towards population growth flattens the housing demand curve considerably, and it's not the one we're pursuing any longer. That's what's changed.

> until public policy shifted towards papering over population decline with mass migration

Do you have a source showing price increases correlate with migration? (The article seems to show a timing relationship between zoning and prices.)

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