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Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by throawayonthe »

petcat wrote: post #5
Versipelle wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair, let's say a heavily staggered come back. I was actually pleased to see OpenAI openly (although timidly) complaining about the situation in their latest announcement, framing it as an unsustainable system. One can only guess the outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt.

> outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt. I suspect that the Chinese government "pulls this kind of stunt" often but just nobody ever hears about it because their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly.

> their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly

wuh?

Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by alephnerd »

derektank wrote: post #19
petcat wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt. I suspect that the Chinese government "pulls this kind of stunt" often but just nobody ever hears about it because their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly.

You also have government apparatchiks influencing almost every corporate board, not just the state owned enterprises. Every private company that employs at least 3 CCP members is required by law to form a party committee within the company to represent party interests. In smaller companies, they will often simply coordinate with local governments on securing permits, etc, but I’m sure national party leadership commun…

> I’m sure national party leadership communicates directly with the committees at the AI labs

They do now.

Top AI researchers in China are barred from getting an exit visa [0] (the PRC has done this for other employees as well such as Foxconn China employees who were working on shifting Apple supply chains to India [1]), and "AI Safety" from a national security perspective has been codified as party policy now [2].

The leading Chinese AI labs are also shifing away from open-source AI for commercial reasons, as can be seen with the org changes at Alibaba with the axing of the Qwen team [3][4].

That said, these are called out but it's all in Putonghua and no one on HN actively reads or follows what happens within China. I've noticed most HNers now source information from Reddit which has been dealing with DRAGONBRIDGE deluge for a couple years now, and I've noticed similar tactics being applied on HN as well.

In all honesty, I've found HN's noise to signal ratio to have tanked severely since 2022. Silver lining is that less people that matter are using it as much, so the IW impact is limited.

[0] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-26/china-exp...

[1] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-17/china-mov...

[2] - http://theory.people.com.cn/n1/2026/0616/c40531-40741238.htm...

[3] - https://m.guancha.cn/economy/2026_06_12_820253.shtml

[4] - https://www.ft.com/content/b39da303-3188-447b-8b65-3dd8dad8b...

Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by othmanosx »

datakan wrote: post #7

The fear porn around this all has been horrible. I work in Cybersecurity and Mythos is all the vendors will talk about because they want to sell something. It started the day of the announcement which is what told me it was all BS. They had no information about it yet would happily tell me about all their solutions for it. Anyone in my profession worth a damn will tell you the vast majority of security issues are rel…

We already are using software that is ancient, with many vulnerabilities that are already in the public, we already use insecure software more than we care to admit, if Mythos is gonna help with that, it's gonna make finding (not discovering) these vulnerabilities easier because it already has the knowledge, but the enough intellect to come up with new ones. Same applies for other LLMs

Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by signatoremo »

Henchman21 wrote: post #12
petcat wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt. I suspect that the Chinese government "pulls this kind of stunt" often but just nobody ever hears about it because their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly.

Ah so you can see the future of discourse in the US

Democracy cannot be taken for granted. There are always tendencies to drift toward authoritarian. China is authoritarian, full stop. They are capitalism, not communism, but authoritarian. Keep that in mind when discussing what come out of China.

Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by Henchman21 »

signatoremo wrote: post #26
Henchman21 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah so you can see the future of discourse in the US

Democracy cannot be taken for granted. There are always tendencies to drift toward authoritarian. China is authoritarian, full stop. They are capitalism, not communism, but authoritarian. Keep that in mind when discussing what come out of China.

We actively take it for granted in the US AND we’re actively watching it slip away. No one seems to give a shit.

Re: Post-Mythos Cybersecurity: Keep calm and carry on

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Post by ath3nd »

jijji wrote: post #13

it all looks suspicious: - June 1st 2026: Anthropic files S-1 paperwork with SEC to get ready for IPO - June 2nd 2026: Anthropic annouces expanding "Project Glasswing" to let people use their new model to enhance security of existing systems - June 9th 2026: Anthropic releases Mythos model - June 12th 2026: Model gets export regulations placed on it by US Gov - June 26th 2026: US gov announces they will let some comp…

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