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#101
post #5

Are they all actually 0-day? I think a lot of them are from disclosed CVEs/code that were already fixed upstream. It often seems like the term "0-day" has lost most of its meaning today and people often use it to refer to any exploits.

RCE has no meaning either in these situations. The "remote" part is usually an ssh root session if it means anything at all.

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#102
post #54
post #40

0-days-vibes-vulns ? There should be a new category, for spotting and handling the em-dashes of this brave new world of vulns and making the old fossils like me only picking my head up for the old painfully still hand-crafted artisanal ones instead. A kind of label, like free-range for eggs, in sum.

Yes, big pet peeve of the new world. Every em dash is apparently an AI trigger. Back in my day, they were a sign of great respect within my people.

I propose that humans use Unicode U+2E3B three em dash ⸻ it is an impressively long character.

Re: Anonymous GitHub account mass-dropping undisclosed 0-days

#103
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, big pet peeve of the new world. Every em dash is apparently an AI trigger. Back in my day, they were a sign of great respect within my people.

I used to be an em-dash user, but now my opinion is that I’d rather be perceived as someone who does not want to be confused with an LLM. So I’ve changed my writing style.

They're just so handy! I do think LLMs tend to use them in a specific way, though.

So maybe tweaking your usage (ex. no spaces around them) or using a technically incorrect en-dash might offer the desired effect while subtly signaling that your message isn't AI-generated.

I still use them — mostly for pauses — but I'd like to think my voice sounds distinct enough from an AI that people can tell.

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#104
post #17

I took a look at the Ghidra ones (because I use Ghidra), and I'm unimpressed: https://github.com/bikini/exploitarium/blob/main/ghidra-12.1... The first requires being able to overwrite binaries in the Swift tool directory. Yes, if you overwrite binaries executed by ghidra, you can trigger code execution. This is not a surprise. The second, idk, I'm not familiar with TraceRMI (but it's probably worth noting that "RMI"…

Was just thinking it would be hilarious if these were all known CVEs hiding the next Shai-Hulud inside of them and waiting to compromise security hobbyists rushing to download them.

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#105
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a flurry of this sort of stuff as the AIs get smart enough to find them. I really think this characterization is misleading. It's not "getting smart", only more tailored toward a specific usage, better curated dataset, better harness, better prompts, better labeling of results, documentation of failures and success, etc. The outcome is (hopefully) overall better but this anthropomorphized wording makes it sound lik…

Do you have a definition of "smart" such that there is something an AI could do to prove itself intelligent? Or are you just defining "fast" as something only horses can do, and considering that a useful insight about cars?

A future AI may be intelligent, but LLMs are clearly not. They have no agency, no ability to reason, and no world model. The most effective way to use them is to treat them as next token prediction machines, because that’s what they are.

edit: downvotes but no rebuttals. feel free to show me where the agency, reasoning from first principles, world model etc exists. or you can ask an llm and they'll tell you they don't have those.

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#106
post #100

I want to rush to git clone, but as things are, the odds are extremely high that this kind of things that are too good to be real are honeypots and something there will compromise your machine or make your llm start working for someone else...

Then, don't rush and take a few minutes to set up a virtual machine.

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#107
post #54
post #40

0-days-vibes-vulns ? There should be a new category, for spotting and handling the em-dashes of this brave new world of vulns and making the old fossils like me only picking my head up for the old painfully still hand-crafted artisanal ones instead. A kind of label, like free-range for eggs, in sum.

Yes, big pet peeve of the new world. Every em dash is apparently an AI trigger. Back in my day, they were a sign of great respect within my people.

It’s so they don’t train on AI data, right?

Re: Anonymous GitHub account mass-dropping undisclosed 0-days

#108
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please do not abuse these. Reminds me of Jamie Wolf's joke about bestiality laws. Who are those for? What stops most people from bestiality is… not wanting to have sex with animals! For people who do want to, what, they won't because of… the law?? Who will this comment stop??

> Who are those for? The people who want to see the people doing bestiality punished

I don't want to "see" any of it...

Re: Anonymous GitHub account mass-dropping undisclosed 0-days

#109
post #17

I took a look at the Ghidra ones (because I use Ghidra), and I'm unimpressed: https://github.com/bikini/exploitarium/blob/main/ghidra-12.1... The first requires being able to overwrite binaries in the Swift tool directory. Yes, if you overwrite binaries executed by ghidra, you can trigger code execution. This is not a surprise. The second, idk, I'm not familiar with TraceRMI (but it's probably worth noting that "RMI"…

Was just thinking it would be hilarious if these were all known CVEs hiding the next Shai-Hulud inside of them and waiting to compromise security hobbyists rushing to download them.

It wouldn't be the first time!

Re: Anonymous GitHub account mass-dropping undisclosed 0-days

#110
post #63
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please do not abuse these. Reminds me of Jamie Wolf's joke about bestiality laws. Who are those for? What stops most people from bestiality is… not wanting to have sex with animals! For people who do want to, what, they won't because of… the law?? Who will this comment stop??

The laws are to punish the act once discovered. Not to inhibit it, primarily. Which I suppose cuts down on the incidence of the act in the long run,

That’s one school of thought. Law as a tool to punish those who have committed a prohibited act, mostly reactive.

Others consider law a way of encoding the group’s existing rules and norms.

In that view, making something illegal or mandatory is not a prerequisite for punishment: it’s the actual main point.

The threat of punishment is meant for those not deterred from an act by the simple fact it is illegal (and the threat only works if enforced).

Others put it the other way around, and see law as social engineering, a way to shape the group, either through the encoding itself of the desired behaviours in law, or through deterrence. Or both. If what one is after is either power or legitimacy, they need compliance more than punishment (can’t rule once you’ve chopped everyone’s heads off, or once the mob has put yours on a spike).

It’s also sometimes used as coordination (which side of the road we drive on).

And there’s also law as dispute resolution (if your neighbour’s hen lays an egg in your garden, who does it belong to? Yes, it’s ridiculous. Yes, some places have one or more laws for that). Which, incidentally, both requires and provides legitimacy. Funny, that.

And probably many other kinds / points of view, with many different purposes, intents, and mechanisms.

Anyway, all that to say law is vast, fascinating, and utterly tedious. And apologies for the tangent.

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