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Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#71
People complain about meta all the time. Clearly, its a scumbag company.

There is only one way to make him hurt: boycott all meta products. Uninstall facebook, instagram, whatsapp.

Edit -- I am getting downvoted for this comment. I can't say I am surprised, most of you are too programmed to think for yourselves.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#72
post #7

> Kaplan is an oaf whose plan to provide paid internet access to refugee camps falls apart once he learns that refugees in camps don't have any money (he also takes points off of Wynn-Williams' workplace evaluation for being "unresponsive" over a period when she was in a near-death coma). The same Joel Kaplan who was involved in a coup?

And now head of global policy at Metabook

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#73
post #8

Seems pretty clear to me that he's a full blown sociopath. I know it's bad form to diagnose people online but the guy basically prides himself on it and makes no attempt to hide it. He just doesn't view others as human being.

You don't know anything about him. He doesn't speak in public much and every single source on him has obvious incentives to lie.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#75

I don't understand the purpose of an analysis that goes on for pages and pages without even mentioning that Meta says Wynn-Williams isn't telling the truth. I'm not saying you have to agree with them! But if you don't acknowledge their stated position you're not going to be able to make sense of the situation.

There's a clear remedy if she lied about them in print – sue her for libel. And I can't imagine one of the richest corporations in the world would have trouble winning that lawsuit, if it actually were the case.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#76

I don't understand the purpose of an analysis that goes on for pages and pages without even mentioning that Meta says Wynn-Williams isn't telling the truth. I'm not saying you have to agree with them! But if you don't acknowledge their stated position you're not going to be able to make sense of the situation.

Just like in Justice, where every suspect always say they are to blame when they did commit a crime.

(It's a great book, Mark and co. are more awful people we thought they were.)

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#77
post #40

Meta said in a statement that its “she accepted a large severance payment years ago...” This is the only point from Meta that is legitimate. If she accepted payment in exchange for signing an NDA and then violated it, the appropriate remedy in this should be that she returns the money. Which doesn't change the fact that Zuckerberg should be ashamed of using NDAs as a weapon like this. It's very small minded from a ma…

> using NDAs as a weapon like this. This is standard in companies. I've seen companies give a pittance in exchange for a binding NDA and the person took it because they needed to pay rent that month. Meta is evil but in this case so is almost every other company and especially tech companies. Also, giving it back doesn't undo the contract, the deal was done.

Some companies are more evil than others.

Some will lie repeatedly to even avoid paying out a settlement.

In America you have no rights, your lucky if you get paid on time. Even then the actual process to get your back owed wages usually isn't worth the effort.

I worked for a clown once who waited 30 days to tell me he only pays every 60 days.

A friend of mine wasted a full week training, and the employer decided they didn't need him and didn't pay for the training.

If you DARE try and go the legal route you'll find you can basically beg for a settlement, but your employer can just say no.

Going to court isn't going to be worth it since the system is heavily stacked against you.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, NDAs are very common, but there are more and less ethical ways to use them. A judge can decide to invalidate the contract entirely, which is what I'm suggesting would be the correct remedy in this case.

What grounds are there to void this contract that was agreed on my both parties?

We don't have all of the facts but the contract could be voided if it was signed under duress, used to hide misconduct and prevent whistleblowing, etc.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#79

All that it was ruled against her should be illegal. It should also be illegal for companies to add abusive contract clauses that directly go against basic rights as freedom of speech. Disgusting set of human beings Zuck and company. Read the book and then decide if it's worth continuing on FB.

I mean, a lot of people these days, including a lot of anti-Facebook techies, seem to think it is right and proper to equate “freedom of speech” to the First Amendment to the US Constitution, scoped to the government only, whereas private actors can do whatever. (Though now that I think about it I don’t know if Doctorow does—hopefully not but I’ve been disappointed by quite a few childhood idols in this way over the…

> how does one get not punishing opinions—even those that would put the listener in danger if implemented—broadly accepted as a value?

Taking you literally, I don't think that's possible. Social punishment (in the form of shunning, boycotts, "cancelling", etc) has been around as long as human society has existed and is incredibly popular.

If someone figures out how to reliably solve that, a few nobel prizes are probably awaiting them.

If you want to take a subset of this problem, maybe it's possible: Like if you mean corporations specifically, not all private actors.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

#80

I don't understand the purpose of an analysis that goes on for pages and pages without even mentioning that Meta says Wynn-Williams isn't telling the truth. I'm not saying you have to agree with them! But if you don't acknowledge their stated position you're not going to be able to make sense of the situation.

"Well he would, wouldn't he?"

— Mandy Rice-Davies

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