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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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I'm happy to vote for anyone who can put an extra 0 on that, it would be nice for these companies to pay more tax than me one of these years....

They already pay. How 10usd subscriptions become 10eur or 10£? Companies pay lawyers and beurocrats and accountants to operate.

I'm not claiming they dont pay everything they legally have to, I'm saying the laws are wrong.

Nick 30 ans is tired and wants someone else to pick up the slack for once.

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I think they’d try to get something through Congress to regulate the industry in a rules-based way. The current admin flies by the seat of their pants and at least creates the perception of political decision making.

Obamacare, but for AI, where every American has to now pay a penalty to not use AI or something like that? That was the last major thing the Democrats did, and healthcare has gotten substantially worse...but at least it's well regulated now.

That’d land better as a political hit if only it made any sense at all. Truly a low effort attempt.

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Dear anthropic, please consider moving your entire business to Canada or Europe where you will be allowed to conduct your business without vindictive and Kafkaesque government interference. I would like to have access to your models too!

> where you will be allowed to conduct your business without vindictive and Kafkaesque government interference Isn't this basically the reason that no major tech labs or startups ever come out of Canada or Europe though?

No, that’s mostly because there’s no capital market for building mid-sized businesses.

Anthropic is past that. They’d have no trouble moving if they wanted to, except the USG could stop them.

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Trump has an 87% approval rating amongst Republicans as of the last poll I can find. While Trump is a megalomanic and does whatever he wants, he has the mandate of the Republican party, whose elected officials could choose at any moment to end this by withdrawing support. Don't let them off the hook.

This is what they want. When they say "small government" they mean "small autocratic ruling party". When they say "personal responsibility" they mean "societal harm burdened on the individual"

When they say "liberty" they mean liberty to oppress others ... I've heard this language my whole life. I know what these people stand for and I've seen it in practice. It's heinous and repulsive.

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I do work in a bureaucracy heavy activity in Europe, and without my friends in high places I'd be shut down. I've had wait times for bureaucracy cut from 2 years to 2 weeks, licenses given after a dinner when official processes were denied, etc. I've never had these problems when trying to start the American branch. Competition yes, having to wine and dine local politicians nephews no

Dinner with politicians? Where do you live? Where I'm at(Sweden) someone getting a permit after dining with a politician would be front page news, along with judicial consequences for both the politician and the business owner in question. Europe is quite diverse, even us Europeans tend to underestimate just how diverse it is.

Right next to Sweden.

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I’m not sure what the US government is trying to do. At first it seems like they are just trying to stifle some company that said no. Now they are just doing free publicity. It’s like never before have I wanted to try something out as much as this. They’re in effect saying “nothing else is as powerful as what Anthropic put out”. Even though that might not really be the case it’s what it sounds like.

It’s probably just basic corruption. Want access to Mythos for your company? Enrich someone in the administration. That’s how everything works now: they outlaw/tariff it and then you pay a bribe to get it back or get declared exempt.

It just came out the Kalshi outright gave Donald Trump Jr a $300k stake in the company when it made him a “strategic advisor”. That’s the name of the game now

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Technically the US government is allowing Anthropic to serve the models to any US citizen, and it's Anthropic who decided that's impossible to comply with and so they pulled the model for everyone. I guess a US business with non-citizen employees could work. A lawsuit would be a hard sell though, because Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous. Even if many people on HN might think that Anthropic…

>Anthropic themselves argued that the technology is dangerous. They never released mythos 5 to the general public. And they never will.

Never is a long time. When open models catch up in 4-12 months, they might change their minds.

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If this becomes the norm, what incentive does the rest of the world have to keep their markets open to the US? If US companies have a large unfair advantage such that domestic competitors are no longer able to compete, then wouldn't it make sense for governments around the world to ban or tariff US products and services? If I was responsible for national economic policy, I would place this at the top of my non-emerge…

Its utterly unsurprising that in the reckoning of pro-socialist society (work less, tax more, live easy), the failure of European industry over the last 30 years, utterly unsurprising that the knee-jerk reaction is "You need to share your labor with all of us" rather than "We need to get our shit together and build a competitor"

Europe isn't cooked because it lacks talent, there are untold smart capable people there, it's cooked because it built a social allergy to the very thing it needs most.

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Lockheed Martin is able to restrict access of their product details to only us citizens. It's not impossible, it's just hard.

> Lockheed Martin is able to restrict access of their product details to only us citizens. The US government has stated that the US is very behind in manufacturing of military equipment vs e.g. China (in terms of scale and speed). So if your example is gimp it then sure it's possible.

For just this reason, dialing back ITAR export restrictions has been on the agenda for nearly a decade.

> https://calibremag.ca/trump-preparing-to-roll-back-itar-expo...

It hasn't yet happened. And, as things stand right now, nobody in their right mind wants to work in a business beholden to ITAR. Strong export controls will kill American AI.

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