Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

markdy.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–77 of 77 posts

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#71

Post by hnlmorg »

dang wrote: post #67
swiftcoder wrote: post #16

This is just the weirdest subject choice for a demo

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

Normally I’d be the first to argue for cultural diversity. However I don’t know of any culture that would consider masturbation an appropriate theme for a tech demo.

Even the articles on here that are very specifically about adult content (such as advertising on porn sites) have been more tasteful than some of the demos on this project.

So I can only conclude that this submission isn’t the result of cultural bias. Unless you consider “immaturity” a culture. But then you have to ask yourself if that’s a culture you want to promote in HN.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#72

Post by dang »

hnlmorg wrote: post #71
dang wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

Normally I’d be the first to argue for cultural diversity. However I don’t know of any culture that would consider masturbation an appropriate theme for a tech demo. Even the articles on here that are very specifically about adult content (such as advertising on porn sites) have been more tasteful than some of the demos on this project. So I can only conclude that this submission isn’t the result of cultural bias. Un…

> masturbation an appropriate theme for a tech demo.

Oof, I didn't see any of that. I was reacting to the boy/girl stuff at the beginning, which is the sort of thing that is still conventional in some places. If I had seen the level of weirdness that you describe, I wouldn't have posted.

I've added an edit to my post above. Forgive the "if" - that's my hedge against having to watch the entire thing!

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#73

Post by dang »

praash wrote: post #69
dang wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

Dan, your HN comments are a collection of beautiful essays that is becoming a reference library for healthy discourse. I think it deserves a dedicated website.

I'm glad that somebody reads them!

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#74

Post by dredmorbius »

dang wrote: post #73
praash wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dan, your HN comments are a collection of beautiful essays that is becoming a reference library for healthy discourse. I think it deserves a dedicated website.

I'm glad that somebody reads them!

Oh, we do, closely ;-)

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#75

Post by mapcars »

9dev wrote: post #66
mapcars wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its the plague of western people thinking they have the moral high ground over other cultures and nations. In the place where I grew up this kind of scene would be considered normal. But you must be the one who dictates what is right and what is wrong, don't you?

> moral high ground over other cultures and nations. I don't think I have that, really. But I have the high ground over people who objectify groups of other people, and if that is really central to your culture, then I am not accepting of it. Make of that what you will; you do not seem particularly open to criticism either.

>I don't think I have that, really

Thinking and doing is not the same.

>people who objectify groups of other people

What is the objectification here exactly?

>you do not seem particularly open to criticism either.

Right, and how would you know that? Just make sure you make your opponent look bad and you win the argument - this worked in school, not sure why try to do it here.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#76

Post by mapcars »

blanched wrote: post #47
mapcars wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its the plague of western people thinking they have the moral high ground over other cultures and nations. In the place where I grew up this kind of scene would be considered normal. But you must be the one who dictates what is right and what is wrong, don't you?

Why are you passionately defending this? I doubt the author cares much, it's clearly an example that came about through vibe coding. It's not core to the tech/product, people think it's off-putting, why not change it? Hacker News loves to talk about being amazing business-people and "understanding the customer" but somehow that gets dropped for things like this.

I'm not defending it, I'm saying "cringy sexist bullshit" is just a modern liberal western take. It could have been something like "people might see it problematic", and I agree with that.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

#77

Post by 9dev »

mapcars wrote: post #75
9dev wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> moral high ground over other cultures and nations. I don't think I have that, really. But I have the high ground over people who objectify groups of other people, and if that is really central to your culture, then I am not accepting of it. Make of that what you will; you do not seem particularly open to criticism either.

>I don't think I have that, really Thinking and doing is not the same. >people who objectify groups of other people What is the objectification here exactly? >you do not seem particularly open to criticism either. Right, and how would you know that? Just make sure you make your opponent look bad and you win the argument - this worked in school, not sure why try to do it here.

> Thinking and doing is not the same.

You can't know whether you have the moral high ground. That's always an assumption, and I am not making any assumptions about being morally superior to other nations or cultures. No more, no less.

> What is the objectification here exactly?

I have answered that extensively in another comment [0]; in short the scene depicted treats women as a prize for the stronger man. This seems pretty obvious to most people commenting on this thread.

> Right, and how would you know that?

Because you started off accusing me of thinking I have the moral high ground over other cultures and nations, and dictating what is right and what is wrong - without knowing anything about me either, on the basis of me pointing out how this animation is sexist.

You didn't pause to consider whether that might have some merit, but instead immediately went to a personal attack. It sure seemed to trigger a reaction in you, and it wasn't reflection.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48672915

Post reply on HN