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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by Gud »

dgellow wrote: post #518
lwhi wrote: post #511

The current digital hellscape that's developing is something we've been warned about consistently over the past 30 years. All these dangers were known and predicted. There's an uncanny parallel with the climate crisis. Fatalistic somnambulism.

But contrary to the climate crisis and what all the AI boosters are saying, it is not inevitable. Its something that is actively being built, it’s not something that just happens. It can be stopped, a different system can exist. The AI crowd also hasn’t proven at all that what they are building can self sustain. So far the economics are monstrously bad, there is no viable business model

The climate “crisis” was also completely preventable but we chose not to.

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Post by dgellow »

Gud wrote: post #521
dgellow wrote: post #518

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But contrary to the climate crisis and what all the AI boosters are saying, it is not inevitable. Its something that is actively being built, it’s not something that just happens. It can be stopped, a different system can exist. The AI crowd also hasn’t proven at all that what they are building can self sustain. So far the economics are monstrously bad, there is no viable business model

The climate “crisis” was also completely preventable but we chose not to.

It was, yes. The difference is that if we stop the AI stuff, it stops. There is no external feedback loop that sustain itself. The climate crisis, after we pass some thresholds (and we likely did), that becomes out of human control

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Post by win311fwg »

dgellow wrote: post #512
theplumber wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the Europeans have had some bad experiences with the communist system so naturally they are not very keen to any get communist influence. Once China can twist your arm you can be sure they will. Just mention democracy to them and you will see what comes next.

China is an authoritarian ethno nationalist state-capitalist system. They are so far from anything remotely communist. The only thing communist about it is the name of their mono party

> They are so far from anything remotely communist. The only thing communist about it is the name of their mono party

They are far from anything remotely communist except by the one and only thing that defines communist? "Communist" has only ever referred to a political party.

Are you confusing "communist" with "communism"? The latter has held dual meaning, both referring to a nation under rule by a Communist party and an imagined sci-fi world where post-scarcity has taken hold. Obviously we remain far from achieving post-scarcity. However, nobody has ever claimed China has. In context, we know that the political party is the point of focus.

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Post by Gud »

dgellow wrote: post #522
Gud wrote: post #521

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The climate “crisis” was also completely preventable but we chose not to.

It was, yes. The difference is that if we stop the AI stuff, it stops. There is no external feedback loop that sustain itself. The climate crisis, after we pass some thresholds (and we likely did), that becomes out of human control

There is, because even if “we” stop “they” will continue.

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Post by stanac »

sschueller wrote: post #448
abroszka33 wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a European I still prefer US over China.

But why? There are no Chinese military personnel and bases in Europe. The Chinese have not tried to take European land by force and China is also quite stable. It won't change it's mind every 4 years and negate international treaties that have been signed. I also don't recall China invading another country and/or kidnapping leaders of a foreign state in recent history. China also does not control the global reserve c…

> The Chinese have not tried to take European land by force

What did US do? Are you referring to Kosovo?

For context, I am European using both US and Chinese models, not rooting for one side or the other (but prefer openness of Chinese models).

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Post by dgellow »

__alexs wrote: post #432

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

> As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it

Yes, that’s the only sane conclusion. And yes it does screw the TAM, but it’s not like the AI vendors had actual realistic economic plans to begin with

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Post by dgellow »

bvcp wrote: post #519
__alexs wrote: post #432

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

Watch the eu do the same thing

By doing it, as leader in the industry, the world hegemon, and self-titled „leader of the free world“, the US gave the implicit permission for any other country to do the same

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Post by dansquizsoft »

goldenarm wrote: post #456
merek wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why London of all places?

Talent concentration, little tech regulation, English speaking, decent funding, close to GMT. There's a reason why a big chunk Google deepmind is already there.

> Talent concentration

Lol

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Post by dgellow »

OkWing99 wrote: post #446

So what happens to their $1T valuations now, given they can't sell the product to consumers, and open-weight models are closing in on competition?

Ask SpaceX. There is no rational for those valuations, it’s pure FOMO
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