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My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I don’t understand why the Steam Machine is getting so much hate. The form factor is amazing and a huge part of the value proposition. It’s slightly bigger than a box of Kleenex and you can put it next to the TV, on your desk, etc. I’m tempted to get one just to free up the floor space used by my ATX case. The graphics capability seems good enough, most people can live without 4k gaming.

I don’t understand who the target is. I can afford one but I’ve already got a PS5 Pro and it just works. I’ve got a threadripper+blackwell running Linux too, but it gets 2/3 the framerate of when I boot it to windows for games. When I had more time and less money, I would have built a gaming PC that would be better and cheaper than the steam offering. So the market isn’t me.

Who is it? Who wants a gaming machine connected to their TV? Every PS5 and Nintendo owner. Are they the target market? Why would a PS5 owner spend $1100 on a machine that places games worse if at all? So I can FPS with a mouse? DRM doesn’t work. So I can play RTS? No I’m sitting at my desk over my keyboard.

Who wants a Linux PC connected to their TV that doesn’t already have a Linux PC connected to their TV? Who wants a smaller, less customizable box? That you can’t swap out the graphics card when they inevitably become a lot cheaper? Who wants a last gen AMD GPU and not be able to swap it out for a 5080 once things are cheaper again and the 6060 comes around?

Who is this for? I’m not hating on it. It’s not for me and I don’t know who it IS for.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

I miss Stadia

I just had a screen and a internet connection. Bliss.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

> can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, While I agree game streaming can work well, in practice on a modern game the frame rate will vary if you try to get 4k hdr 120k and I don't believe a game stream can use variable refresh rate. In practice what do you do if playing a modern AAA game? Do you set the frame rate to a locked 60? I used to do game streami…

The video codec does not care about VRR, it happily does it. If the receiving display can do VRR, it'll just work.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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I tried using the official steam client on my TV (running some google/android TV OS) which was hard-wired in (100 Mbps) which should be sufficient for 1080p/60 if not 4K/60 but there is some android TV bug that adds an unacceptable audio lag. Video quality was fine. ( https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/0/62441675... ) Seems like a waste to use a steam deck for this when the TV hardware seems more than…

My TV was cheap so I didn't expect much. Steam link really struggles on it - thankfully I still have the old Steam Link hardware and it works alright. Locked to 1080p though. Refused to spend more on a TV because I feel you don't get much more processing power for an increase in price. All smart TVs I've interacted with in the last 5 years have been much slower than I would consider acceptable.

I got a second hand M1 Mac Mini for this purpose. Costs about $200 and it can easily handle 4K streaming.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Have you looked at what sort of FPS it gets on the games you want to play? Overall it's performance is... Quite poor even on the lowest settings for lots of games

The world is full of beautiful indie games, I barely play AAA games. But even then, I wouldn't consider it as a PRIMARY pc if you have budget for something more. It's a great secondary pc. That's what I mean by "market", I don't think they are targeting the global segment

Well I play both and if I only had $1,000 I would stick to consoles

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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The world is full of beautiful indie games, I barely play AAA games. But even then, I wouldn't consider it as a PRIMARY pc if you have budget for something more. It's a great secondary pc. That's what I mean by "market", I don't think they are targeting the global segment

Well I play both and if I only had $1,000 I would stick to consoles

I mean, to everyone their own? I would have saved money in the long run with a steam machine

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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>If the benchmark has the words "RT" on it, like a lot did, you can safely throw them in the trash More like you can throw the console in the trash if you can't run current day games on it well, when those games mandate RT. A lot of AAA games have started mandating RT since 2025, like Doom the dark ages for example, and the number of games doing that will only increase moving forward as devs just take the easy way wi…

I feel bad for the people who are going to buy it and then have to run Cyberpunk at 1080p on the lowest setting to be able to maybe squeeze out 60 FPS

Maybe those people are fine playing a 30fps?

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Well I play both and if I only had $1,000 I would stick to consoles

I mean, to everyone their own? I would have saved money in the long run with a steam machine

Yeah totally it just comes down to if you're able to play the "games you want to play". But I definitely think there will be some disappointed buyers who don't quite realize the limitations

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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You cannot play two different games at the same time with your 50ft hdmi cable. Can't people see any usecase for the steam machine? I understand, you are not in the market for it. I am, I have a good usecase which possibly will make the cost drop below a ps5 over the years (if you include games cost)

You also can't turn it on from your couch. There's a potential meme image demanding to be made. One shows the steam machine user playing a game with resume feature in just 2 panels. One sitting down and pressing the controller, the next playing. The other half of the comic has 10+ panels. One sitting down. One facepalming. One standing up and turning on the pc elsewhere, one sitting down, one opening steam link one s…

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