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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by defrost »

snovv_crash wrote: post #418
jandrewrogers wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has a long history and the US government are not completely stupid. They understand that some cornerstone technologies are high leverage even if they are not per se directly militarily relevant. Some classic examples of this, on which the US places severe export controls, was advanced materials science and inertial navigation technology. Neither of these are weapons but advanced technology in these domains great…

Another one is thermal vision cameras. Anything above 9fps (I guess an arbitrary cutoff to do with night-vision goggles) is export controlled. This is despite the technology being very valuable for many industrial and hobby applications.

If that was a guesstimate on frame rate it's likely off.

Regardless of US controls, I can from Australia buy a high quality 50 fps thermal scope with built in 1000m (or ~ 1000 yard) laser range finder from Hangzhou, China.

ie. Why lock the stable at 9 fps when out on the open plain 50 fps is already running free.

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Post by ed_elliott_asc »

theahura wrote: post #342

> “I have determined that appropriate safeguards are in place to permit certain trusted partners to access the Claude Mythos 5 Model,” Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick wrote to Anthropic’s chief compute officer Tom Brown Friday why is the commerce secretary making this decision

My tin foil hat version of myself says it is because the whole thing is a marketing stunt and certain members of the administration are getting kick backs for it.

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Post by teliosix »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #177
alanwreath wrote: post #86

I’m not sure what the US government is trying to do. At first it seems like they are just trying to stifle some company that said no. Now they are just doing free publicity. It’s like never before have I wanted to try something out as much as this. They’re in effect saying “nothing else is as powerful as what Anthropic put out”. Even though that might not really be the case it’s what it sounds like.

Is there any evidence at all that would convince you that they're trying to mitigate real risks that actually exist?

Of course not. I like to complain that AI is dangerous and should be regulated and then out of the other side of my mouth complain that it is unfair and a gimmick if the government tries to regulate anything.

Why? Because I am a social media addict that lives in 2026 and I don't know how to relate to things in the world that don't involve complaining.

Complaining you see is more form of epistemology and entertainment at the same time to me. Reasoned debate and nuance just doesn't get enough likes for me. I am all about the emotional response to a topic.

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Post by t0mas88 »

kulahan wrote: post #397
varjag wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why people here are so upbeat about China. It is almost guaranteed it will also introduce export controls on the models.

I’ve been asking myself this question quite a bit lately. People seem to suddenly think China is a good alternative to the US hegemony status. I sincerely hope I’m just misreading things.

Consider it from a European perspective: The US under this administration is more unreliable than China. If Trump decides tomorrow that he's unhappy about something he'll pull some random other thing to bully the other side. You can't do business with that.

Rebuilding trust and foreign relationships is going to take a long time after Trump is gone.

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Post by vld_chk »

__alexs wrote: post #432

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

> now

Unfortunately, Europe should had made this conclusion at least 18 months ago, not now.

Watch out European politics procrastinate for at least one more year hoping that Trump will reverse. Then procrastinate more, because “elections soon, maybe Dems will win and reverse”.

I live in Europe and will never go to work in the US; but EU/UK inability to solve national security problems is beyond pathetic.

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Post by t0mas88 »

willsmith72 wrote: post #276
exabrial wrote: post #199

How does my small company become a "trusted partner"?

Oh you thought this was a competitive free market?

I thought "Free market!!1!" was basic US policy. But apparently you can't do any consumer protection laws, but you can regulate AI access to only your wealthy friends / campaign sponsors.

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Post by __alexs »

vld_chk wrote: post #437
__alexs wrote: post #432

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

> now Unfortunately, Europe should had made this conclusion at least 18 months ago, not now. Watch out European politics procrastinate for at least one more year hoping that Trump will reverse. Then procrastinate more, because “elections soon, maybe Dems will win and reverse”. I live in Europe and will never go to work in the US; but EU/UK inability to solve national security problems is beyond pathetic.

Oh sure the EU is terrible at all technology policy but it also seems like this is sort of a don't interrupt your enemy when they are making as mistake situation.

If the US commit to handicapping their AI industry like this it's going to destroy the competitiveness of those companies globally. All of those US spending commitments on data centres etc are going to collapse, or americans will need to pay 2x the token cost of the rest of the world. Both very bad options.

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Post by abroszka33 »

t0mas88 wrote: post #435
kulahan wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been asking myself this question quite a bit lately. People seem to suddenly think China is a good alternative to the US hegemony status. I sincerely hope I’m just misreading things.

Consider it from a European perspective: The US under this administration is more unreliable than China. If Trump decides tomorrow that he's unhappy about something he'll pull some random other thing to bully the other side. You can't do business with that. Rebuilding trust and foreign relationships is going to take a long time after Trump is gone.

As a European I still prefer US over China.
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