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PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by like_any_other »

zarzavat wrote: post #140
knodi123 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is technically true, but not helpful. These online services have buttons that say "rent" and "buy", they don't say "rent for a little while" and "rent for a longer but unknown amount of time". Of course they can go out of business, but the impression they intentionally give to the customer is that if you click "buy", you get access to the movie for as long as the site exists.

If you're the ethical type you can "buy" it on one of these services and then pirate it in order to keep it in perpetuity. If you're the less ethical type you can skip the "buying" step.

Is it really ethical to keep giving them money? Eventually you have to face the fact that you're feeding a monster that lobbies for anti-consumer laws and makes anti-consumer technology. They're actively working to make our world worse. Helping them in that endeavor is not ethical.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by somat »

rolph wrote: post #100
Manuel_D wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's quite clearly explained on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of_file_sharing > In the case of file sharing networks, companies claim that peer-to-peer file sharing enables the violation of their copyrights. File sharing allows any file to be reproduced and redistributed indefinitely. Therefore, the reasoning is that if a copyrighted work is on a file sharing network, whoever uploade…

streaming is downloading, otherwise it wouldnt be visible on your hardware. if you pay for a stream and the distributor downloads it to your buffer, the only thing preventing it from persisting is wrapping the data to contain it in a file structure. if we really want to split hairs, everytime the data is accessed a streams bits are copied into registers, but those bits have no identity beyond 1 or 0 if you dont distr…

There is a good epigram about DRM that goes something like

"Asking a computer to not copy things is like asking water to not be wet."

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by wolvoleo »

This is ridiculous. I thought at first that it concerned pirated movies that people were playing on their playstation.

But no. It's purchased content. That is being deleted. That's insane. Even if an EULA states they can do this, there should be statutory rights that overrule this.

I notice that Sony calls it "previously purchased" content. As if it's ok to do this because it's been a while ago.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by wolvoleo »

zarzavat wrote: post #140
knodi123 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is technically true, but not helpful. These online services have buttons that say "rent" and "buy", they don't say "rent for a little while" and "rent for a longer but unknown amount of time". Of course they can go out of business, but the impression they intentionally give to the customer is that if you click "buy", you get access to the movie for as long as the site exists.

If you're the ethical type you can "buy" it on one of these services and then pirate it in order to keep it in perpetuity. If you're the less ethical type you can skip the "buying" step.

Well, if I had been the ethical type (I'm not), having my paid content deleted would convert me into a non-ethical type really really quickly. Just saying.

I don't care if some lawyer suit says it's ok because I really bought a license and not the content. Screw that. I bought a movie. If that's allowed by the law, the law deserves no respect.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by somat »

0x0000000 wrote: post #89
gherkinnn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...

Piracy isn't stealing regardless of whether or not buying is owning.

copyright infringement is not theft, it is also not piracy.

Piracy is a real crime, I am tempted to describe it as theft of goods under transport. But it is probably much more complex than that. It also shares many similarities with organized crime(a company of men decide to ignore the law).

Anyway you slice it, people probably just want the crime to sound(worse/cooler) than it really is. It always sorts of bugs me to equate one of the worst crimes to one of the least. Might as well call it "software rape" at that point. And that is probably closer to the actual crime than piracy.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by fsflover »

encrypted_bird wrote: post #45
chmod775 wrote: post #41

sudo pacman -S transmission-gtk I suppose it's time to form a new media consumption habit.

I'd recommend qbittorrent over transmission tbh.

I'd recommend anonymous torrents in I2P over non-anonymous standard implementation.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by lyu07282 »

nayuki wrote: post #79

> Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours Wrong, Kotaku. Lots of digital things are ours. Digital files on our personally owned HDDs and SSDs. Digital movies on DVD and Blu-Ray discs on our shelves. Digital ISO files on hard drives that are ripped from the aforementioned digital physical DVDs. What you meant to say is, streaming content is not ours - and that is true by definition, because the data is streame…

> Digital movies on DVD and Blu-Ray discs on our shelves.

It actually already got a bit more fuzzy with Blu-Ray and especially with later BD+ doesn't it? You own some encrypted data, but there is absolutely no guarantee you will always have access to a player with the right keys and a TV that is compatible and isn't refusing to play it.

It already drove the needle way past acceptable copy protection, do not buy Blu-Rays!

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by [deleted] »

gorpigo wrote: post #127
nerdsniper wrote: post #8

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Jellyfin + Jellyseer + PassThePopcorn has served me and my friends/family well. I pay $50/mo now for a seedbox with 16TB but it serves 20 people. I would self-host for $0/month but my current apartment only has Xfinity, not AT&T and the upload isn’t enough to self-host. It’s less about the money and more about: 1) Having a single place to go for any TV show or movie. I found it very frustrating trying to figure out w…

How did you find your way into PTP? I’m in a few but PTP it sounds like they expect you to be a mass uploader. I’m and seeder but how would anyone even “find” me? Do I need to be involved in the forums of the private trackers I use today?

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by b__d »

nerdsniper wrote: post #8
thomasmarton wrote: post #6

Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

Jellyfin + Jellyseer + PassThePopcorn has served me and my friends/family well. I pay $50/mo now for a seedbox with 16TB but it serves 20 people. I would self-host for $0/month but my current apartment only has Xfinity, not AT&T and the upload isn’t enough to self-host. It’s less about the money and more about: 1) Having a single place to go for any TV show or movie. I found it very frustrating trying to figure out w…

Where did you get a seedbox with 16 TB for just 50$/month?!

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Post by davkan »

OptionOfT wrote: post #47
shepherdjerred wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you get a private tracker?

You don't need a private tracker for stuff that comes out now. In fact, for those things, I'd say a private tracker isn't that interesting because of the share requirements.

None of the major movie/tv trackers have onerous ratio requirements. But yeah you don’t need them for new mainstream releases. They’re only necessary if you’re particular on quality or want niche stuff.

That said the experience is 1000x better than using public trackers. It’s like if IMDB had a download button. Basically anything you could ever want in any quality you could ever want in a perfect organized library with all the metadata, consistent seeders and no DMCAs.

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