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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by digitaltrees »

typeofhuman wrote: post #185
jandrewrogers wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The authority under which this was done has been operative and actively used for several decades. It isn't a partisan issue, it is a policy of American governance. Anyone that has worked on frontier "dual use" technologies will be familiar with the legal regime. The only thing that changed is people are writing articles about it in the news media.

The only correct reply.

If by correct you mean, inconsistent with the American tradition of the rule of law and commitment to equal protection of the law, and the emergence of an authoritarian kleptocracy that picks winners and losers. Then yes. Correct.

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Post by jmyeet »

paulddraper wrote: post #117
jmyeet wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering there's no such thing as a "free market" I've been laughing for a real long time. Markets require regulation and enforcement to function. The US government was created to protect the interests of rich, white, male slave owners. And if you look at Louisiana State Penintentiary (often called "Angola"), which is essentialy a Southern plantation with forced labor, you realize not as much has changed as you mi…

The it did a pretty shit job of it. Within 100 years it was killing hundreds of thousands to fight against that purpose.

Lincoln disagrees [1]:

> My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.

While chattel slavery ended when the 13th Amendment was ratified in 1865, slavery continued through debt bondage and convict leasing up until 1941 where FDR suddenly decided to aggressively prosecute the practice for fear of the Japanese using it for propaganda value. I'm referring to Circular 3591 [2]. And while that heavily curtailed abuse (eg by locking people up essentially indefinitely for "vagrancy" or imaged debts), forced prison labor continues to this day, including private companies profiting from prison labor.

Also, while the Confederacy lost the Civil War, the South arguably won. Reconstruction saw severe curtailment of newly-established civil rights for former enslaved people. And after Reconstruction came Jim Crow until the 1960s.

[1]: https://www.loc.gov/collections/abraham-lincoln-papers/artic...

[2]: https://www.endslaverynow.org/blog/articles/state-imposed-fo...

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Post by trimethylpurine »

richbell wrote: post #202
trimethylpurine wrote: post #138

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What I'm reading is that you agree Trump represents the republican party. Great, the gp's comment has been settled.

Okay. I can't say I care much who he represents. I'm more concerned with the fact that half the country is okay with pardoning a war criminal who committed a biological weapons attack on literally every country in the world, including the US.

If I have to pick between a murderer and literally killing everyone on earth I'll pick the murderer because I'm not a psychopath.

Can you blame me?

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

Alupis wrote: post #184
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #175

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If you don't want the current administration to be blindly hated, perhaps you should ask the president to stop publishing daily statements about how much he hates various people. You reap what you sow.

It'll never stop amusing me how blind we are to politicians that are "on our side".

Again, you're seeing this as some kind of clever invariant of politics, but it's not. People are blind to politicians on their side because Donald Trump has spent the past 10 years working hard to make sure that everyone in politics is constantly enraged at the other side. You're being "punished to hell", in your words, because you're blaming Trump's passionate embrace of hatred-based politics on his opponents.

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Post by digitaltrees »

seemaze wrote: post #126
kristopolous wrote: post #55

Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

Having an a collective economy governed by the “free market” is like having a pile of stones governed by gravity. There exists a primary directive force, but if you want to construct a cathedral or a bomb shelter, you need to impose some constraints, lest you revert to the angle of repose.

Yes. But that was the “big government democrat” argument that republicans said was evil and un American.

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Post by preg_match »

twoodfin wrote: post #201
actionfromafar wrote: post #64

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Overturning the Chevron doctrine is good because it stops lawful people from doing things we don't like. We aren't bound by laws, so we can do whatever we want. -- GOP probably

The Chevron doctrine gave more power to the executive agencies of the current administration, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

That repealing the chevron doctrine was a calculated play in the unitary executive theory. We all know congress is basically useless these days. But we also know that regulation isn’t, like, optional. It’s going to happen no matter what.

So what’s left? Where does that decision making go? Turns out the executive, so that’s what we’ve been seeing and it’s largely uncontested. This should have been obvious to most people going into this, particularly if they understood Trumps platform or Project 2025.

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Post by digitaltrees »

ch4s3 wrote: post #134
kristopolous wrote: post #55

Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

They haven’t claimed to be the free market party since Obama was in office. Trump very much ran an anti free market campaign the first time.

Yes they have.

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Post by rcr-anti »

tyre wrote: post #154
Alien1Being wrote: post #120

Don't start to rely on it . The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique. The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.

This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice. Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.

Being open weight, the Chinese models can be served the same way as Anthropic's: via AWS or GCP. Or whomever really, or on prem.

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Post by Alupis »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #214
Alupis wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll never stop amusing me how blind we are to politicians that are "on our side".

Again, you're seeing this as some kind of clever invariant of politics, but it's not. People are blind to politicians on their side because Donald Trump has spent the past 10 years working hard to make sure that everyone in politics is constantly enraged at the other side. You're being "punished to hell", in your words, because you're blaming Trump's passionate embrace of hatred-based politics on his opponents.

> you're seeing this as some kind of clever invariant of politics, but it's not. People are blind to politicians on their side because Donald Trump

Yes, sure, it is I who is blind...

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