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PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Here is the full list of the 551 movies and TV shows being removed: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/psvideocontent/

Top movies include Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter, The Graduate, Moonlight, Manchester by the Sea, Room, Silver Linings Playbook, Terminator 2: Judgment Day and Pan's Labyrinth.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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it should not be legal for the product page to say “purchase” or “buy” when in reality you’re only renting it with a to be determined end date

Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? what did you actually own ? I get the feeling, but this whole outrage about what words mean is sterile if you don't actually engage with what is sold here, by who from who, what was the contract, how it was setup and why. How do you feel about the right holders who also didn't bother providing simple "buy, download and it's forever yours" avenues to get that content ? Or a…

> Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? what did you actually own ?

A ticket that would allow you entrance into a particular concert. Is this some sort of rhetorical question? I can't decipher what it's attempting to illustrate.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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post #2

it should not be legal for the product page to say “purchase” or “buy” when in reality you’re only renting it with a to be determined end date

Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? what did you actually own ? I get the feeling, but this whole outrage about what words mean is sterile if you don't actually engage with what is sold here, by who from who, what was the contract, how it was setup and why. How do you feel about the right holders who also didn't bother providing simple "buy, download and it's forever yours" avenues to get that content ? Or a…

> Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ?

This comparison makes no sense. When you buy a ticket to a concert you fully expect to be allowed access to said concert. If it gets cancelled because this or that studio owns some random right you fully expect to be refunded.

> I was already renting stuff when video tapes were a thing

Good for you. These guys also propose rental with a rent button, and a purchase button for what you'd expect be purchasing the movie. Do you still not see what the issue is and why the debate on what word means is anything but sterile?

> Or are you just happy being outraged and will go back to your daily life afterwards ?

Wow, this is gratuitous and extremely belittling. I hope you feel good smelling your own farts.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly — they should have just offered a lease until the end of the licensing agreement: “Pay $X today and watch this movie as many times as you want through June 2026!”

When this was originally tried under the OG "DIVX" brand name, everybody (including me) threw a fit. Some warned that everything would work that way eventually anyway, and everybody (including me) blew them off.

I thought divx came with one play when you bought the disk, and then PPV after that

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#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have there been any cases since the Meta ruling with the books they torrented? If I understood it right they argued and won that they didn’t seed any of the torrents so is fair use and the judge agreed. That case made it seem like as long as you don’t seed/distribute the copyrighted material then it is legal

It's quite clearly explained on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of_file_sharing > In the case of file sharing networks, companies claim that peer-to-peer file sharing enables the violation of their copyrights. File sharing allows any file to be reproduced and redistributed indefinitely. Therefore, the reasoning is that if a copyrighted work is on a file sharing network, whoever uploade…

It’s too bad the judge told rights holders to forget about it when Meta violates copyright.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? what did you actually own ? I get the feeling, but this whole outrage about what words mean is sterile if you don't actually engage with what is sold here, by who from who, what was the contract, how it was setup and why. How do you feel about the right holders who also didn't bother providing simple "buy, download and it's forever yours" avenues to get that content ? Or a…

> Have you ever bought a ticket to a concert ? This comparison makes no sense. When you buy a ticket to a concert you fully expect to be allowed access to said concert. If it gets cancelled because this or that studio owns some random right you fully expect to be refunded. > I was already renting stuff when video tapes were a thing Good for you. These guys also propose rental with a rent button, and a purchase button…

> This comparison makes no sense. When you buy a ticket to a concert you fully expect to be allowed access to said concert. If it gets cancelled because this or that studio owns some random right you fully expect to be refunded.

You're explaining that while the ticket was a purchase, it had specific limitations and the vendor would follow a specific contract, with specific recourse for people in eligible cases.

That's exactly what's happening with Playstation.

Some people might not understand the contract, but we're decades into this now, it's time we're past "the button said 'buy'" discussions.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#99

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have there been any cases since the Meta ruling with the books they torrented? If I understood it right they argued and won that they didn’t seed any of the torrents so is fair use and the judge agreed. That case made it seem like as long as you don’t seed/distribute the copyrighted material then it is legal

It's quite clearly explained on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aspects_of_file_sharing > In the case of file sharing networks, companies claim that peer-to-peer file sharing enables the violation of their copyrights. File sharing allows any file to be reproduced and redistributed indefinitely. Therefore, the reasoning is that if a copyrighted work is on a file sharing network, whoever uploade…

streaming is downloading, otherwise it wouldnt be visible on your hardware. if you pay for a stream and the distributor downloads it to your buffer, the only thing preventing it from persisting is wrapping the data to contain it in a file structure. if we really want to split hairs, everytime the data is accessed a streams bits are copied into registers, but those bits have no identity beyond 1 or 0

if you dont distribute this to others or brag on a forum about all your streams, no one will even know.

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