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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by jknoepfler »

atlgator wrote: post #78
Klathmon wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's not just him, it's the entire party aggressively supporting him and everything he does.

They passed one major piece of legislation since he took office and it was loaded with pork to get everyone onboard. I wouldn't call that aggressive. The Right is very fractured right now.

It's fractured as a consequence of its own actions, which all of its constituent members bear direct responsibility for.

Epstein cover up? Iran? COVID denialism? Complete disregard for rule of law? Accepting massive, direct bribes? Trying to control broadcast media?

That's all on the Republican party as a collective, who did absolutely nothing to resist it and everything to put him in power TWICE. TWICE.

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Post by DANmode »

nutjob2 wrote: post #84
kristopolous wrote: post #55

Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

Also free speech/the first amendment and various other rights people are supposed to have but don't in practice.

Fourth Amendment, through corporate data purchase or exfiltration.

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Post by mlinsey »

intrasight wrote: post #95
mlinsey wrote: post #59

I understand why Anthropic might not want to fight this particular one in court, because they're trying to convince the administration to let them move forward. But would another company who is not on the trusted partner list and has less to lose taking on the admin have standing to sue here? On the basis of the export control being illegal and this putting their business at a disadvantage vs. competitors with access

They could just ignore Trump as he has no authority to so limit a private company.

The labs will not just ignore the order, there are too many other levers they can try to pull to mess with those companies. Just for some examples, think about the number of employees reliant on visas that could be revoked, the government contracts that the hyperscalers hosting them that could be canceled, the certifications that all the data centers need to be hooked up to the grid, the tariffs that could be put on critical components, the IPOs that need to be approved by regulators, the bill introduced in Congress to seize 50% of their equity...

Lots of these moves would and should be struck down in court as an arbitrary and capricious use of administrative power. Some of them might not be, and in the meantime you're signing up for tons of trouble. A trillion-dollar company does not simply go to war with the US government.

A more mid-sized company that's not so intertwined, but not so small that they can't get a good legal team, might be another story.

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Post by seemaze »

kristopolous wrote: post #55

Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

Having an a collective economy governed by the “free market” is like having a pile of stones governed by gravity. There exists a primary directive force, but if you want to construct a cathedral or a bomb shelter, you need to impose some constraints, lest you revert to the angle of repose.

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Post by iAMkenough »

ryan_n wrote: post #96
qsxfthnkp2322 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fable was available to me as a normal person using Claude.ai Mythos never was and I don’t think that’s changing.

Until the chinese make a comparable open source model at some point

I’d say we’re about 5 years out from the Great Firewall of America, and requiring government ID associated with serial number to legally purchase components.

America will do that before gun control.

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Post by danans »

jknoepfler wrote: post #94
kristopolous wrote: post #55

Next time someone tells you this is the party of free market and small government, I guess you just laugh now?

Ever since I've been conscious (the 80s), it's been the party of fear, violence and greed. They've consistently nominated actual clowns for positions of power. B-movie actor Ronald Reagan... Dan Quayle... Sarah Palin... the current, truly stunning iteration of absolute moral and intellectual bankruptcy TWICE after he killed hundreds of thousands of people due to COVID/vaccine skepticism and staged a violent attack on…

> It is just utterly baffling to me. I'm... well along the spectrum... so people not responding correctly to obvious information is just something I've gotten used to but just... wow.

People get quite a kick out of seeing people they don't like get hurt. They can stay entertained by that for a long time until it bites them.

Only now is it finally biting with the collapse of the rural medical clinics, the war induced spike in the price of gasoline, etc.

That's probably playing a big part in the seeming shift in the electorate in every election.

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Post by mullingitover »

paulddraper wrote: post #117
jmyeet wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering there's no such thing as a "free market" I've been laughing for a real long time. Markets require regulation and enforcement to function. The US government was created to protect the interests of rich, white, male slave owners. And if you look at Louisiana State Penintentiary (often called "Angola"), which is essentialy a Southern plantation with forced labor, you realize not as much has changed as you mi…

The it did a pretty shit job of it. Within 100 years it was killing hundreds of thousands to fight against that purpose.

The point of slavery was money, and the point of money was power. By the time of the civil war the real power for the ruling class was coming from industrialization.

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Post by dualvariable »

FireBeyond wrote: post #116
brokencode wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they’d try to get something through Congress to regulate the industry in a rules-based way. The current admin flies by the seat of their pants and at least creates the perception of political decision making.

> the perception of political decision making The what? More like "the whims of an eighty year old in cognitive decline and those wishing to curry or keep his favor" - quite an expansive definition of "political decision making".

Don't forget the blatant grift and corruption.
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