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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by verelo »

coffeemug wrote: post #9
tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

None of those things are knowledge. I think theres something specific around limiting access to knowledge and capabilities that makes this feel insidious.

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Post by UncleEntity »

coffeemug wrote: post #9
tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

Fairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have tons of agencies responsible for regulating all the things.

Plus, they're relying on the "math is a weapon" law to ban "export" of the models.

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Post by standardUser »

coffeemug wrote: post #9
tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

All of the agencies responsible for those regulations were created by and get their funding from Congress. Currently, they're asleep at the wheel. Or a better idiom might be "cowering in the corner".

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Post by tzs »

coffeemug wrote: post #9
tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

> Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives.

Every one of those is by a regulatory agency that was explicitly empowered by Congress to do such regulation.

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Post by delichon »

UncleEntity wrote: post #12
coffeemug wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

Fairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have tons of agencies responsible for regulating all the things. Plus, they're relying on the "math is a weapon" law to ban "export" of the models.

Congress passed the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778) in the Ford administration and it has been applied to software since at least the Clinton administration.

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Post by sigmar »

coffeemug wrote: post #9
tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.

Regulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.

The ATF was created by an act of congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968
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