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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by luxuryballs »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

I am still waiting for a government to try “nationalizing” AI by saying anything produced by AI belongs to “everyone” and thus hugely taxing the profits and proceeds from the product, as soon as Bernie Sanders thinks of it you can bet we’ll hear all about it.

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Post by jmward01 »

hollerith wrote: post #695
jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

>I can train insainly powerful models on my laptop Explain. The labs have been spending about $100 million in compute to train a model.

Give me three ish months and, I hope, to show exactly what I mean!

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Post by iAMkenough »

microgpt wrote: post #680
jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

How is this regulatory capture? Any new LLM company can just exist outside of the US and export to everyone.

Until they can’t.

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Sol- wrote: post #439
tokioyoyo wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theoretically that gives edge to all other companied around the world though, no?

I don't think a critical mass of them will oppose the US. The most likely equilibrium is Chinese models being shut out of any US-aligned markets (i.e. Europe at the very least, also East Asia, etc.). Probably India, Russia, Brazil etc. will resist such pressure, but they are protectionist and resilient to trade wars anyway, at the expense of their own welfare of course.

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Post by aetherspawn »

amunozo wrote: post #535
jliptzin wrote: post #505

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Yea not sure who would put money into an OpenAI or Anthropic IPO at this point. After this episode I promptly bought the hardware I needed to run local models (~$25k) and am extremely impressed. The price tag alone is worth the peace of mind knowing I will always have a locally running LLM that nobody can take away. I don't need Mythos-level intelligence to do 99% of my day to day work; Opus 4.8 was more than enough…

Can I ask what did you buy? I don't have that money now but I wouldn't knpw what to buy anyway.

I can run most models 100B and under on my MacBook Pro with Ultra 3 and 128GB of RAM at 25-70tok/sec-ish, and it was around $5k.

I don’t think I can run GLM 5.2 since it requires around 256GB of memory and the inference is probably too slow, but the future (planned) Apple M7 may be able to. The leaks say it will support up to ~700GB of RAM.

The models under 100B are kind of dumb as a brick and aren’t that useful unless you’re really bad at coding imo. They can’t really be trusted not to hallucinate so they’re not even good for data processing.

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

0x3f wrote: post #659
zild3d wrote: post #96

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> defence - why would anyone buy US weapons after Greenland and Canada Huh? US foreign military sales are up at all time highs "Total exports by the United States, the world’s largest supplier of arms, increased by 27 per cent. This included a 217 per cent increase in US arms exports to Europe, according to new data published today by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)" [ https://www.sipri.o…

Aren't a lot of these purchases (a) locked in from contracts made pre-admin; and (b) otherwise largely related to anxiety over Russia? There are too many confounding variables here.

The admin has also said that many of those arm shipments may be delayed by years because the US first needs to restock after blowing their inventory in Iran. So, sign a deal for US weapons which may not be delivered as agreed or may be denied the latest required software patches. I expect many countries to look elsewhere for future armaments.

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Post by standardUser »

derwiki wrote: post #534
pluc wrote: post #408

It's entertaining watching the whole world take steps to reduce reliance on the US and the US throwing arguments for it out like it's candy

What concrete steps have been taken?

Trade is being reconfigured in the midst of Trump's idiotic trade war (and even more idiotic real war) and militaries worldwide, particularly our closest allies, are seeking non-US sources of arms.

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Post by standardUser »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #278

This is the last wake up call for EU. After China starts controlling their models, in 5 years EU would be left with archaic technology compared to other major economies

Any future president will know better than to economically hamstring our closest allies and important trading partners.

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Post by aunty_helen »

Age verification for social media.

Approval lists for AI models.

Two sides of the same coin. The administration is taking the opportunity now on the back of fear mongering done by the labs. The labs get regulatory lock-in, the govt gets surveillance. Everybody (that matters) wins.

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Post by [deleted] »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #543
hgoel wrote: post #415

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China has no reason to do that. The US is freely handing them the international market for AI.

Are they though? I see this as a precautious method by US to maintain AI model superiority so the Chinese companies cannot distill from the US frontier models. Let's see how fast Chinese models would improve without access to latest US models and if they keep on releasing open models

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