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PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

However, you will stop owning that copy the moment the DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable. Physical media is a good start, but DRM-stripped digital is the ideal.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#32

Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

> If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing

https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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Off to small claims court people should go. Amazon tried something similar and got in trouble because people when after them. And people wonder why some people sail the high seas.

I believe you’d lose in small claims court as all of the streaming companies make it clear you’re purchasing a revokable license.

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Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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post #31

Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

However, you will stop owning that copy the moment the DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable. Physical media is a good start, but DRM-stripped digital is the ideal.

> DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable

If I am the reason for damaging my purchase then I am fine with that characteristic of the purchase.

Same happens with books, you buy the copy and if you don't take care of it, soon it will become unreadable.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#36

How is it that Steam manages to avoid yanking games from people's libraries even after the games are delisted for licensing issues, etc? I have multiple games that you can't "buy" anymore, but Steam doesn't stop me from reinstalling them as often as I like. Are they negotiating that as part of the deal with their vendors? Or is it as simple as "We're not dicks." ?

That's just how Valve's license agreement works. You publish with Steam and you grant Valve the right to publish the work in perpetuity.

The licensing deal made by movie studios does not work like that because the studios are intentionally predatory. The distribution agreements are temporary and can involve periodic payments. Literally Netflix rents movies from the studios and rents them back to you. The studios reserve the right to cancel distribution deals at any time.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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How soon until the digital distributions are owned by just a few cartels, and later when it’s suitable for them, they also modify digital movies to suit a political agenda without letting you know?

Buddy I hate to tell you, but this already happened several years ago.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

However, you will stop owning that copy the moment the DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable. Physical media is a good start, but DRM-stripped digital is the ideal.

> DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable If I am the reason for damaging my purchase then I am fine with that characteristic of the purchase. Same happens with books, you buy the copy and if you don't take care of it, soon it will become unreadable.

DVDs degrade naturally. Good care will extend the lifespan but not indefinitely.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

#39

Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

> If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...

Correct: it's copyright infringement, not theft.

Re: PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies from Customers' Accounts

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post #31

Piracy is justified especially when it comes to movies! If I am buying a DVD, I own that copy regardless of the studio and the distributor being in legal trouble or not. If I "buy" or "purchase" something online, I expect the same thing. I'm not always a fan of the EU over-regulating some things but I feel like they should start fining companies who want to re-define the meaning of the word purchase

However, you will stop owning that copy the moment the DVD deteriorates to the point of becoming unreadable. Physical media is a good start, but DRM-stripped digital is the ideal.

If you buy a DVD you have the right, in every sane jurisdiction I'm aware of, to rip the movie from the DVD into an iso. You can then discard/recycle the media and retain the digital copy you have the right to view privately in perpetuity. It is a single consumer license though, as is logical, so it's likely illegal for you to continue to watch the ripped iso if you resell the media with the content still on it or resell the media with any portion of the value coming from the markings from the content or the fact that it used to contain that content. You probably want to shove it in a closet somewhere or just reuse it as rewriteable media for whatever purpose you need - retaining physical ownership of the media makes things simplest legally.
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