Europe to exclude military-age Ukrainian men from temporary protection scheme

fivetomidnight wrote: post #3

notaigenerated wrote: post #2

Gender equality according to Europe.

I seriously can't tell anymore if that is trolling.

Refusing shelter to people who flee the war based on their sex (gender?) and nationality is no trolling. It's both sexist and nazist - two things the EU elites are so desperately trying to root out from their societies.

Re: Europe to exclude military-age Ukrainian men from temporary protection scheme

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Post by Sabinus » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 10:25 PM UTC

notaigenerated wrote: post #6

fivetomidnight wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seriously can't tell anymore if that is trolling.

Refusing shelter to people who flee the war based on their sex (gender?) and nationality is no trolling. It's both sexist and nazist - two things the EU elites are so desperately trying to root out from their societies.

Do you approve of the EU elites trying to root those out of society?

Re: Europe to exclude military-age Ukrainian men from temporary protection scheme

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Post by fivetomidnight » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 10:41 PM UTC

notaigenerated wrote: post #6

fivetomidnight wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seriously can't tell anymore if that is trolling.

Refusing shelter to people who flee the war based on their sex (gender?) and nationality is no trolling. It's both sexist and nazist - two things the EU elites are so desperately trying to root out from their societies.

I have no idea how dire the situation in Ukraine is currently, but can we first acknowledge human nature and the necessities of defending your country against an aggressor before invoking some words that have lost most of their meaning by now?

As a father, brother, son and coward who didn't serve, I'd rather be with my loved ones than in the trenches. But having them, or any women, drafted in my place is also out of the question.

Also, are you disregarding the reality that we life in nations (that can have the misfortune of having evil demon lords as neighbors) and that man and woman are not totally interchangeable?

What is your suggestion then? Speaking as a leader of a country at war or an ally of that country.

Re: Europe to exclude military-age Ukrainian men from temporary protection scheme

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Post by notaigenerated » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 10:49 PM UTC

fivetomidnight wrote: post #8

notaigenerated wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refusing shelter to people who flee the war based on their sex (gender?) and nationality is no trolling. It's both sexist and nazist - two things the EU elites are so desperately trying to root out from their societies.

I have no idea how dire the situation in Ukraine is currently, but can we first acknowledge human nature and the necessities of defending your country against an aggressor before invoking some words that have lost most of their meaning by now? As a father, brother, son and coward who didn't serve, I'd rather be with my loved ones than in the trenches. But having them, or any women, drafted in my place is also out of…

My suggestion is not to exclude men from the temporary protection scheme. They're as much of humans as women are and they too want to live their lives peacefully rather than fight for God knows what and being forced to die in the meat grinder like cattle. At least give that to people who managed to escape the Ukrainian concentration camp.

Or, if you decide that men have duties that women don't, let's get back to the patriarchy and give the men the privileges they fight for (or have to fight for in case of a war).

Re: Europe to exclude military-age Ukrainian men from temporary protection scheme

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Post by notaigenerated » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 10:53 PM UTC

Sabinus wrote: post #7

notaigenerated wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refusing shelter to people who flee the war based on their sex (gender?) and nationality is no trolling. It's both sexist and nazist - two things the EU elites are so desperately trying to root out from their societies.

Do you approve of the EU elites trying to root those out of society?

I really don't care, cause I'm not there.

I just like it when governments try to be consistent with their policies. Equal rights? That's great, but then why men all of a sudden have more duties? If they do, they should have more privileges then. That's consistent and honest.