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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by ethagnawl »

aristocrazy wrote: post #312

Given how the WH operates these days, this is ripe for corruption. Imagine the WH dislikes the CEO of a biotech company, while appreciating the attitude of a competitor CEO. What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?

> What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?

Congress, if any of those creatures were vertebrates.

For the next few months, though? Nothing will. Those in the in-crowd will line each others' pockets at the expense of the rest of us. I will say that the recent election results and the building bipartisan angst over data centers and surveillance (e.g. Flock) are encouraging.

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Post by jauco »

utilize1808 wrote: post #568
pixelpoet wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then all they do is drive the usage of open models underground (copyright infringement is illegal too, and still common), stifle US companies operating legally, and accelerate the rest of the world decoupling from the US. I hope they do it! It will have a positive long-term effect just like the Iran war footgun accelerates renewable energy transition.

Have you seen legitimate corporates use cracked software? If you do, then your competitors will report you; your employees will blackmail you. The risk is too great.

He said copyright infringement. The company tfa is about literally trained its models using massive copyright infringement.

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Post by data-ottawa »

stackedinserter wrote: post #330
akmarinov wrote: post #93

Sooo both OpenAI and Anthropic going bankrupt soon? If they can’t freely sell access to their models and Chinese models catch up to Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5 in 6-8 months - then why pay OAI/Anthropic at all?

How many people are going to buy a $10-20K rigs to run these open models?

The calculus is changing for non US, non Chinese users.

Hypothetically if the US continues to restrict their frontier models and adds a ban on Chinese/open models then it would to obliterate services like open router. American cloud companies would presumably be blocked from selling capacity to run banned models in this situation.

That causes a shortage of compute/gpu resources internationally and an oversupply of non-revenue generating hardware in the US.

If that happens then what percent of your salary is worth securing this compute worth? How much does the cost of a data centre chip change? It’s difficult to say.

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

mips_avatar wrote: post #282
razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

This is what OpenAI/Anthropic want, it's better marketing than they can pay for -- and it creates a precedent for permanently banning the next generation of open weights models

The EU bans ASML for American chip use.

America bans intel and amd from exporting chips.

Whats next.

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Post by foota »

jmward01 wrote: post #604

This is regulatory capture in action. This will make it hard/impossible for new vendors to come into the market and only established companies will get to play, and charge, for LLMs. What does this mean for open source? Will it become illegal to download weights? What about train your own? Are we heading to a world where GPU use is regulated to ensure that illegal LLMs aren't being processed on your machine? More bro…

What? This is the opposite of regulatory capture. Neither anthropic nor openai are getting to choose what happens with their models.

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Post by dopidopHN2 »

jessepasley wrote: post #590
criddell wrote: post #540

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this is a good opportunity for the European AI companies to jump ahead?

Lol

The US is already behind and has been technically. Can't wait for that part to sink in. This start to be a source of second hand embarrassment when I see US folk think their country is still leading the race technically.

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Post by pipes »

Can anyone explain to me (a non US citizen) how this won't be found to be unconstitutional (eventually)?. I would think it falls under freedom of expression. And given the attempted classification of encryption as a munition that failed, I don't see how this can possibly last?

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Post by oliver236 »

pipes wrote: post #617

Can anyone explain to me (a non US citizen) how this won't be found to be unconstitutional (eventually)?. I would think it falls under freedom of expression. And given the attempted classification of encryption as a munition that failed, I don't see how this can possibly last?

constitutional rights only apply to us citizens i believe

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Post by afavour »

amunozo wrote: post #503
paxys wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most countries around the world corruption/bribes are necessary for doing business. Companies even account for it on their books. It was about time the US caught up.

In the US is already legal. It is called lobbying.

Lobbyists exist in a lot of countries. It’s only in the US where they’re as problematic as they are.

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Post by jesse_dot_id »

utilize1808 wrote: post #473
rgbrenner wrote: post #283

Im not worried about this at all. The OpenAI, Anthropic and the US government can play this game all they want... They're just accelerating the development of open source models; and helping destroy the lead the US has built in AI, and their profit margins along with it. This is like the battle between PostgreSQL and Oracle all over. Move up market, isolate yourself to enterprises, and watch while everyone else build…

The government will just claim that unsanctioned models have the potential to deliberately introduce security vulnerabilities when working on IT projects (e.g. be trained to strongly yet covertly favoring introducing compromised dependencies when you are not looking). Then laws will be made to forbid organizations who use models other than those from the sanctioned labs to participate in critical projects on national…

Streisand effect
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