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Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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“ Terra has competitive performance to GPT‑5.5 [while being 2x cheaper]…” To me that means “it’s an inferior product but marketing dictates we try and hide that.” And “our most robust safety stack to date. We strengthened protections for higher-risk activity, sensitive cyber requests, and repeated misuse, and spent multiple weeks finding weaknesses, pressure-testing our system, and hardening it against real-world att…

Maybe that message is for investors.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Unless you are hosting it yourself on your own infrastructure it absolutely can be taken away.

There is actual market competition to host open models. If one provider stops offering a model you likely can find another provider that will

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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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> I can think of the tedious task of finding certain functionality within a codebase. I usually can't beat an AI agent harness at this task today. Yup, I remember "racing" the AIs to figure things out in codebases just a year ago. Today, I have no chance. Whether it is due to degraded reasoning capabilities on my part or better models, I don't know.

At least in my case, much of the code in the codebase I'm working on is AI generated so even if I have an accurate mental model of how everything works, I have no idea where any of it is located or named.

To be fair, whenever I join a pre-existing code-base [1], it's the same. I have no idea and have to map it out ;)

[1] Not AI codebases (and of course, AI code bases I guess)

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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No offense but have you considered the strong possibility that you're just holding it wrong? You're entitled to your opinion, but OP is hardly the first person to say something like this and is surrounded by tons of folks saying the exact same thing. Just because it sounds weird to you, doesn't mean it's not true.

By definition, 50% of developers are below average, so there are indeed "tons of folks" who are not very good at what they do.

That is not how averages work. By definition of mean, perhaps.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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And every single one of those providers would buckle under government pressure. Fable itself is hosted on all major cloud providers. How many offer it today?

This seems a little fanciful. There's really no comparison between a model that Anthropic allows Google and Amazon to host with one that has been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times and has dozens of public inference providers.

I don't think they "allow" Google or Amazon to host them so much as Anthropic itself is deploying and managing their services on multiple cloud providers just like every other global scale business. Even the models served via OpenRouter are just being routed to compute under Anthropic control. Same with OpenAI. They aren't going to hand the world's most valuable intellectual property at the moment to some third party to run independently.

Now for the Chinese models on OpenRouter, yea. Those providers could be legit. Or it could be a failed crypto mining operation pivoting to providing AI compute. Who knows.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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I am on the opposite camp. Open models are starting to perform better. GPT 5.5 keeps on messing things up. On the contrary, pi + glm + DeepSeek… bliss. Fable was a different kind of beast though. Rip.

Every time I use opus these days I go shut up... you are not fable.. Hard to imagine how just three days with it changed how I saw LLM use.

Same.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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For comparison, openrouter says opus 4.8 is ~55 tokens/s and fast mode is ~102. 750 tokens/s for their largest model is going to be nuts

What about 15k tokens per second? [0] I remember looking at this earlier in the year and it being so fast that it feels fake. And, yes, this model is old - but still awesome for what it is. [0] https://chatjimmy.ai/

They baked the LLM into a CPU

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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> As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before releasing more broadly. The clowns in the US administration can barely remain coherent from one sentence to the next. Havi…

Most administration is like that. The optimization h happens at the delegation to the competent.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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With the $200/month plan I’ve never ran into any limits or issues. The product can be used every day for extensive sessions and development. What is everyone doing that makes them talk about tokens versus dollars?

If you've never hit the limits, why not do the $100/mo plan?

You can hit limits with $100 if you use it all day.

You can do it easily if you use in fast mode.

I bet you could hit the limits of the $200/month using fast mode if you were using multiple sessions at the same time all day on fast mode.

The OpenAI tiers seem pretty well tuned.

I used to use the plus ($20/month), and that was good for a few sessions every once in a while.

But now that I'm using it to configure my network, monitoring, maintenance, I'm using it every day and I'm on the $100 plan. And I do pretty consistently hit the limits, but it's easy to pace myself.

I'mam thinking about upgrading to $200/month though. It would be nice not to have to ration it.

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