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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by WarmWash »

yunwal wrote: post #211
WarmWash wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On some level though we have to be cognizant of the potential for harm these models have. LLMs are still a little loosey goosey, and we are right on the cusp (if not there already) for an agent to hack a bank and steal money for some rando teenager with a penchant for jail breaking. The regulations are and will be negative, but don't lose sight of what LLMs can do off the leash.

> On some level The appropriate level would be regulation though? Like I just don't get how we can argue that arbitrarily throttling companies is ok.

OpenAI fired the starting gun 3.5 years ago before anyone in the industry had a sound safety plan, and not much progress has been made since.

So here we are, it's probably going to me messy and err on the side of over-bearing.

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Post by dgellow »

alberto467 wrote: post #210
bigyabai wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We don't let passengers fly on unvetted jumbo jets either and we prevent them from flying when they have problems. This is Mr. Fart's Favorite Colors all over again. Our "vetting" process is not any more useful than the billion-dollar metal detector you can skip with a TSA Precheck. It arguably does not deter the most dangerous attacks even slightly. What happens when a mentally-ill pilot locks their copilot out of…

What knowledge or skills do you have to be hating on the certification process for airplanes? It’s just getting ridiculous at this point. There are plenty of industries regulated and certified by national or international agencies. And no they don’t get to do what they want.

Where is the US AI industry regulation?

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Post by siva7 »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

So OAI are you also silently dumbing down your models when you detect "inappropriate topics" like Anthropic did with Fable?

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Post by coreyh14444 »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

I'm going to get downvoted here, but all the E/acc people that loudly allocated for Trump, someone known for amassing power by any means necessary including strong arming industry should be publicly eating crow right now. This was something that was always in the cards when you vote for someone who only cares about himself.

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Post by tencentshill »

revolvingthrow wrote: post #121

This is a real head scratcher. Unless this is a very short term action it seems to have only downsides for everybody: - people pay much more for US models than Chinese models because right now they're the best. Once they're no longer the best (since you don't get access to them) why would anyone pay several times as much for the same result? - once you get a high amount of tokens flowing into China instead of US comp…

You have thought about this longer than anyone who made the decision. Stop caring, it only makes your head hurt.

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Post by [deleted] »

tomComb wrote: post #156
Fraterkes wrote: post #132

"We believe in broad access, and we plan to make GPT‑5.6 Sol, Terra, and Luna generally available in the coming weeks. As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before relea…

> This amount of courting the current administration is pretty scary imo. That’s ironic – I interpreted that paragraph with the opposite slant: positively. If that’s what the government mandates then these companies, in the end, have little choice, so was at least relieved to see them publicly pushing back.

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Post by pu_pe »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

I wonder what kind of scheme the administration is up to. The obvious play is a squeeze where OpenAI and Anthropic are forced to give parts of their company away, like Intel. But they could also be toying with the idea of limiting frontier AI access to companies that bend the knee, which would further cement their grasp on the tech industry.

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Post by intended »

lend000 wrote: post #134
Fraterkes wrote: post #132

"We believe in broad access, and we plan to make GPT‑5.6 Sol, Terra, and Luna generally available in the coming weeks. As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before relea…

Anthropic's fear-mongering and marketing is the reason we have these restrictions in the first place. Despite their virtue signaling, Anthropic is the only major lab that has never released an open weights model, has been caught intentionally nerfing a model after release (Opus 4.6), intentionally and silently degrades performance for suspected competitors and AI researchers, complains incessantly about distillation…

Anthropic is the lightning rod.

Everyone in the space was talking about the automation of work from about day 2. People couldn’t stop themselves from talking about the way it was going to end work, and tech firms were firing people left right and center over AI.

Notably, Anthropic is the firm that stuck to its guns with the US Government, meaning they likely believe in their own spiel.

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Post by dgellow »

loudmax wrote: post #203
tiahura wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel the same way about FDA approvals? I mean, it seems like common sense - a limited beta test before widespread rollout. I'm not convinced they'll ever come up with a good framework for dealing with the cyber & bio issues, but getting triggered by a beta test rollout seems overboard.

It is common sense, and with literally any other administration in the past century it would seem like a good idea. I have zero confidence that this particular administration has any interest in regulating the industry for the good of the country, much less for the good of humanity. They will use regulation to maximize personal profit for themselves and their cronies, at the expense of the nation. I would not have th…

It has already become the norm

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Post by fartcoin67 »

esperent wrote: post #191
tiahura wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you don't get access, doesn't mean they're not innovating.

Maybe, but you know who is also innovating, not gating access, and at most 6-9 months away from reaching parity with US frontier labs?

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