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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by braebo »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #125
avaer wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't going to save you unless you're ok being a criminal. There is nothing stopping the government from making open source versions of these models equally controlled. And given how willy-nilly they are operating I see no reason they won't clamp down on open source. All it takes is someone with connections/political contributions wakes up one day and realizes that open source is a threat to their power or botto…

They can try. Will the courts go along?

The Supreme Court is captured by the Epstein class, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

someguynamedq wrote: post #167
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The organizers of the No Kings rallies have done infinitely more to achieve political change in the United States than online commentators who make fun of them for being insufficiently cool and edgy. Effective activism is not about feeling superior to the normies who have families and are busy on weekdays.

What change have they achieved?

They've convinced Democratic political leadership that they must fight Trump wholeheartedly, and convinced most of the country that Trump is a bad president who's failing to effectively address any problems. More change will be possible after the next election, when Trump's severe unpopularity causes the Trumpists lose control of Congress.

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Post by speedgoose »

chasd00 wrote: post #140
Fraterkes wrote: post #132

"We believe in broad access, and we plan to make GPT‑5.6 Sol, Terra, and Luna generally available in the coming weeks. As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before relea…

I wonder what's going to happen when the administration rolls over to the OtherTeam(tm). If they've established a good relationship with Team A then Team B is automatically going to hate their guts.

Perhaps they estimate that the administration won’t change for a long long time.

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Post by sarky-litso »

kmeisthax wrote: post #138

> We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them. My brother in Christ, then why did you (and your competitors) spend years telling the government you needed them to tie your hands behind your back? Did you really think they'd just give you a crown that says "Ga…

brother from another mother here: I don't think they were begging for overreach from the executive branch, likely would have preferred legislation, especially the kind that could be molded by lobbyists.

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Post by mptest »

postalcoder wrote: post #175
wahnfrieden wrote: post #173

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Was it the norm for Trump's team to hand-select the specific customers who get access in the staged rollout, and to choose the date of wide release?

The AI companies were all asking for the government to regulate them. The government is doing what the companies asked for them to do. You can argue that, by government, they meant some legislative process, but I'd argue that regulation via bad executive order is much better than regulation via bad legislation because the former is tractable. I say this as an EO minimalist.

> The AI companies were all asking for the government to regulate them pretty shallow take. they asked for sensible, transparent, tech aware regulations. this is not that.

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

logicchains wrote: post #165
tomComb wrote: post #156

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> This amount of courting the current administration is pretty scary imo. That’s ironic – I interpreted that paragraph with the opposite slant: positively. If that’s what the government mandates then these companies, in the end, have little choice, so was at least relieved to see them publicly pushing back.

>these companies, in the end, have little choice They absolutely do have a choice, Anthropic and OpenAI could fight it in court. Iran showed Trump is a coward, he wouldn't risk tanking the only industry still keeping the stock market growing.

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Post by winterismute »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

Indeed, I find quite ironic that some people in tech in the US complain about EU "regulations first" approach, but then their government seem to arbitrarily stop things from being released because, well, there is no established policy on safety guarantees or other similar aspects.

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Post by ctoth »

postalcoder wrote: post #175
wahnfrieden wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was it the norm for Trump's team to hand-select the specific customers who get access in the staged rollout, and to choose the date of wide release?

The AI companies were all asking for the government to regulate them. The government is doing what the companies asked for them to do. You can argue that, by government, they meant some legislative process, but I'd argue that regulation via bad executive order is much better than regulation via bad legislation because the former is tractable. I say this as an EO minimalist.

Yeah pretty sure we had a whole bruhaha ~250 years ago about this question of where precisely power belonged. I for one think we mostly got it right then and would be reluctant to shift the power back to the individual sovereign and away from the people.

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Post by cromka »

tiahura wrote: post #149
razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

Just because you don't get access, doesn't mean they're not innovating.

Also applies to Chinese models. Give it 5 more months of US admin locking out US models and let's see what the market will look like for OoenAI and Anthropic IPO.

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Post by [deleted] »

rvz wrote: post #159
razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

This move was obvious the moment Anthropic pleaded to the government to regulate them. As predicted, [0] it has now been applied to OpenAI and soon anyone else releasing highly capable models. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48511849

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