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Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by simonw »

HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

On Nano "it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios" - what have you seen? What kind of things can GPT-5 Mini handle that GPT-5.4 Nano cannot?

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by GaggiX »

paxys wrote: post #59
wolttam wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have no need for Anthropic/OpenAI's frontier model capability, you may be better served with an open-weight model that can't be taken away. Edit: > GPT-5 does the job. I bring up DeepSeek V4 Flash a lot on HN, but I want to mention that according to Artificial Analysis, it trades blows with GPT-5 (high) (from August, 2025) [0] [0]: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/deepseek-v4...

Unless you are hosting it yourself on your own infrastructure it absolutely can be taken away.

Popular open models on Openrouter have dozens of providers.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by cyanydeez »

HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

No, you can't. These companies have two infrastructures: model training and model inference.

Inference needs to cache, it can't cache random model data, so it's essentially dedicated; it can't spin up models on demand, it has to know what demand is coming.

These companies are going to end up with very few models offered and that's probably generous. They might end up with just one model and you pay for removing it's safe guards.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by cyanydeez »

amunozo wrote: post #69
paxys wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you are hosting it yourself on your own infrastructure it absolutely can be taken away.

But you have multiple providers, not just one.

I'm sure he's referring to the tightening of internet controls around social media as an extrapolation to controlling websites, etc.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by duggan »

> As part of our ongoing engagement with the U.S. government, we previewed our plans and the models’ capabilities ahead of today’s launch. At their request, we are starting with a limited preview for a small group of trusted partners whose participation has been shared with the government, before releasing more broadly.

The clowns in the US administration can barely remain coherent from one sentence to the next.

Having them be the gatekeepers of technological progress in 2026 is fucking lame.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by seviu »

jdw64 wrote: post #44

I think GPT writes code the best. How well will it write in version 5.6? It gives me chills. Recently, I went head-to-head with GPT on nearly 2,000 lines of code, and GPT's solution was superior and faster. I even referenced multiple codebases on GitHub while trying, but they were incomparable to GPT. So using GPT brings both fear and excitement. The fear comes from realizing that this level of code is now the averag…

I am on the opposite camp. Open models are starting to perform better. GPT 5.5 keeps on messing things up.

On the contrary, pi + glm + DeepSeek… bliss.

Fable was a different kind of beast though. Rip.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by submeta »

Are GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8 the last models we're going te be allowed to use in Europe? Is there going to be a cut, and we're only be allowed to use less capabale models outside of the US?

I mean, if they deem Fable 5 to powerful to share with the rest of the world, what's left for us?

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by logicchains »

cyanydeez wrote: post #75
amunozo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you have multiple providers, not just one.

I'm sure he's referring to the tightening of internet controls around social media as an extrapolation to controlling websites, etc.

Even in that case it can't be taken away; GPT and Claude are banned in China yet there's still a huge black market for tokens.
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