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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by malnourish » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:25 PM UTC

HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

Hardware hosting old models isn't hosting new models. If you want consistent models, host your own open weights ones.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by arendtio » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:25 PM UTC

I didn't know that I was color blind, but thanks to those charts, I think I need to see a doctor...

I mean, you can read them even without the colors, but who on earth thought that those are a good set of colors? Oh, I forgot it was probably someone on 'Sol'.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by taytus » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:25 PM UTC

dominotw wrote: post #42

osti wrote: post #7

Sol? Looks like openai is jealous of anthropics good model naming ability and wants to emulate it.

sol has no soul

It's missing u

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by alcasa » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:25 PM UTC

dominotw wrote: post #42

osti wrote: post #7

Sol? Looks like openai is jealous of anthropics good model naming ability and wants to emulate it.

sol has no soul

They should have used Figher Jet codenames instead. The MiG-15 one has a nice ring to it.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by ChrisLTD » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

win311fwg wrote: post #34

ChrisLTD wrote: post #5

If it's a new generation why isn't it GPT-6?

It does not introduce incompatibilities with earlier 5.x models? Frontier models are at a point now that there will never be a need for another major version bump, aside from those chasing marketing gimmicks. They are smart enough to adapt.

What would it mean to be incompatible with the other 5.x models?

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by wolttam » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

If you have no need for Anthropic/OpenAI's frontier model capability, you may be better served with an open-weight model that can't be taken away.

Edit:

> GPT-5 does the job.

I bring up DeepSeek V4 Flash a lot on HN, but I want to mention that according to Artificial Analysis, it trades blows with GPT-5 (high) (from August, 2025) [0]

[0]: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/deepseek-v4...

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by dodslaser » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

slopinthebag wrote: post #27

mccoyb wrote: post #11

When will GPT-5.6 Protomolecule drop? Me and the boys on Eros can't wait to get our hands on it!

I'm excited for GPT-5.7 Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, hope they drop it soon

GPT-5.8 Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by ai_slop_hater » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

Stitch4223 wrote: post #25

rvz wrote: post #3

Other than the worst naming I have ever seen (Sol / Terra / Luna), the pricing is still expensive: > GPT‑5.6 is priced per 1M tokens across three model sizes: > Sol is $5 input / $30 output; > Terra is $2.50 input / $15 output > Luna is $1 input / $6 output. The OpenAI casino has never been more ready to take your money on gambling even more tokens.

With the $200/month plan I’ve never ran into any limits or issues. The product can be used every day for extensive sessions and development. What is everyone doing that makes them talk about tokens versus dollars?

I ran out of usage using GPT-5.5 and had to buy a second subscription. I now switched to GPT-5.4 which is basically 2x usage.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by paxys » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

wolttam wrote: post #56

HyperL0gi wrote: post #29

Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…

If you have no need for Anthropic/OpenAI's frontier model capability, you may be better served with an open-weight model that can't be taken away. Edit: > GPT-5 does the job. I bring up DeepSeek V4 Flash a lot on HN, but I want to mention that according to Artificial Analysis, it trades blows with GPT-5 (high) (from August, 2025) [0] [0]: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/deepseek-v4...

Unless you are hosting it yourself on your own infrastructure it absolutely can be taken away.

Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model

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Post by lanthissa » Fri, Jun 26, 2026, 5:27 PM UTC

leumon wrote: post #6

> We plan to make them more broadly available to people using ChatGPT, Codex, and the API soon. I hope this means then fable will also get released again.

why would it? if you're the us gov and sam&greg your good boy giving you 25m

and dario's you naughty boy who you dont agree with politically.

Let 5.6 free, keep fable chained and anthropic instantly sees rev loss and has to cave.