How does this compare to Fly.io
Which is more cheaper for me?
Ideally maybe self hosting would be better?
MicroVMs: Run isolated sandboxes with full lifecycle control
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#22What does the actual startup latency look like? Does it depend on the size of the resulting image?
I tried this a few days ago. Once you have an image built and ready startup time is fast, but building that original image took 5-10 minutes.
I think it's designed for building an image once and then reusing it many, many times.
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#23How does this compare to Fly.io Which is more cheaper for me? Ideally maybe self hosting would be better?
Fly.io doesn't set a maximum of 8 hours of alive time on your instance.
Also, MicroVMs can't be exposed directly to the web. Your code running in them can only be executed via API calls with attached auth tokens - so if you wanted to host a public facing API or website with them you'd need to implement your own additional layer in front.
Something I appreciate about Fly (disclaimer: they support my work) is that the pricing is fixed - you pay $1.94/month (less if you suspend your machine) for the smallest instance, up to $976.25/month for the largest (16 CPUs, 128GB) plus predictable costs for volume storage.
The only variable outside your control is bandwidth, and that's unlikely to cause a nasty shock.
Contrast with any of the more "elastic" hosting providers - Vercel, Cloud Run - and you're much less likely to get a horrifying bill if something gets overly-crawled or goes viral.
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#24How does this compare to E2B?
i’d say what AWS released looks closer to a bare compute primitive. E2B is up the stack and ships everything around VM like snapshots, networking, integrations.
also, there’s no lock-in, E2B is open-source and can be hosted on any cloud (AWS included).
plus supports bigger boxes, higher concurrency, longer timeouts (24hr).
disclaimer: i work at E2B
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#25Shouldn’t the title be “AWS Lambda MicroVMs”? MicroVMs are an existing concept.
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#26What's the best provider to self-host Firecracker? I feel that AWS is not a safe or cost-effective option for a self-funded startup or small business. Although is anything cost effective anymore? Hetzner just had a massive price hike. Part of it might just be that I am old and inflation is catching up with my understanding of prices. But as far as AWS I still have to say no thanks. Imagine some group actually started…
Cloudflare is cost effective for certain types of workloads, I've heard of businesses getting surprisingly far on the $5/mo worker plan.
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#27does it have gpu support?
check this out https://github.com/smol-machines/smolvm
will have a hosted platform soon with GPU support (vulkan)
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#28What's the best provider to self-host Firecracker? I feel that AWS is not a safe or cost-effective option for a self-funded startup or small business. Although is anything cost effective anymore? Hetzner just had a massive price hike. Part of it might just be that I am old and inflation is catching up with my understanding of prices. But as far as AWS I still have to say no thanks. Imagine some group actually started…
This reminds me of Fly.io's model off the top of my head, though its not a self-hosted firecracker as such.
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#29What's the best provider to self-host Firecracker? I feel that AWS is not a safe or cost-effective option for a self-funded startup or small business. Although is anything cost effective anymore? Hetzner just had a massive price hike. Part of it might just be that I am old and inflation is catching up with my understanding of prices. But as far as AWS I still have to say no thanks. Imagine some group actually started…
Cloudflare is cost effective for certain types of workloads, I've heard of businesses getting surprisingly far on the $5/mo worker plan.
At my day job, workers and sqlite-backed durable objects that quickly hibernate and quickly resume are quite nice, I prefer that to standard lambda.
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#30What's the best provider to self-host Firecracker? I feel that AWS is not a safe or cost-effective option for a self-funded startup or small business. Although is anything cost effective anymore? Hetzner just had a massive price hike. Part of it might just be that I am old and inflation is catching up with my understanding of prices. But as far as AWS I still have to say no thanks. Imagine some group actually started…
Hetzner is still cheap compared to AWS.